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mpfunk · 02-01-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by All-American

Wasn't UNM slightly more successful in Basketball just last year than Utah was? I seem to remember the two teams playing in the postseason.

Last year New Mexico was a better team, but history wise New Mexico cannot touch Utah. Unless you discount tournament victories and conference championships.

Detroitdad · 02-01-2007, 10:34 PM

Oh and as schools like Alabama has found out, tradition, except on the very highest levels (UNC, KY, etc.) does not count for as much as alumni wish that it did.

SeattleUte · 02-01-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

Why don't you post a link to that Street and Smith's list, so we can all get a laugh at some of the other schools included on the list? As I recall, Weber State is prominent on that list, and we all know what a powerhouse they are.

Of course you know Weber's tradition surpasses BYU's. BYU is no.4 in-state.

jay santos · 02-01-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Of course you know Weber's tradition surpasses BYU's. BYU is no.4 in-state.

You're correct. And nobody can take that tradition away from you or from Weber. You guys can hang on to that. You deserve it.

All-American · 02-01-2007, 10:37 PM

In no way could you have made the argument less relevant than by citing Weber State. I now know that this discussion is of no concern to me. Thank you for saving me the time.

mpfunk · 02-01-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Detroitdad

Utah- UNM seems a decent comparison, since UNM is hoops crazy. The others seem untenable. BYU also fits in about that same mold. IMO the Utes overachieved under Majerus. The Utes need to, and probably get rid of the Giac and New Mexico needs to be rid of Ritchie McKay.

Utah and New Mexico are a decent comparison if you discount tournament victories and conference championships, the only two things that matter in college hoops.

Utah
Overall record: 35-29
Sweet Sixteen appearances: 15
Elite Eight appearances: 7
Final Four appearances: 4
Championship game appearances: 2
Championships: 1

New Mexico
Overall record: 6-12
Sixteen Sixteen appearances: 2

You are right Utah and New Mexico are really comparable.

jay santos · 02-01-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Detroitdad

Utah- UNM seems a decent comparison, since UNM is hoops crazy. The others seem untenable. BYU also fits in about that same mold. IMO the Utes overachieved under Majerus. The Utes need to, and probably get rid of the Giac and New Mexico needs to be rid of Ritchie McKay.

UNM is probably the closest comparision, however UNM doesn't have the problem with a rival with more fans in their own home city that owns their natural recruiting base.

A better comparison that way might be a Purdue.

mpfunk · 02-01-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

UNM is probably the closest comparision, however UNM doesn't have the problem with a rival with more fans in their own home city that owns their natural recruiting base.

A better comparison that way might be a Purdue.

Jay continue to ignore history on this one. New Mexico cannot hold a candle to the Utes. 35 > 6.

All-American · 02-01-2007, 10:46 PM

So the tables have turned. You are arguing history when you have not scoreboard.

Tell me honestly: did we look this pathetic, too?

jay santos · 02-01-2007, 10:50 PM

Well thanks to mpfunk and SU for playing.

And good luck with that new hire.

We'll be too old to remember this conversation by the time either of us can prove who's right, but it's fun now and I'm sure we'll get some more mileage out of it again.

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02-01-2007, 10:34 PM	#42
Detroitdad Resident Jackass Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Roswell, New Mexico Posts: 1,846	Oh and as schools like Alabama has found out, tradition, except on the very highest levels (UNC, KY, etc.) does not count for as much as alumni wish that it did.

02-01-2007, 10:50 PM	#50
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Well thanks to mpfunk and SU for playing. And good luck with that new hire. We'll be too old to remember this conversation by the time either of us can prove who's right, but it's fun now and I'm sure we'll get some more mileage out of it again.