Check out Jimmer Fredette video

[Indy Coug]

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After seeing him for the first time, here are some of my thoughts:

1. Has superior range on his shot. He has a couple of pet moves to get open shots off the dribble, but I'm not sure how effective those moves will be at the D1 level
2. Has a solid frame
3. Quickness may be an issue at the D1 level
4. Appears to only be able to go to his right and uses his right hand near the basket when he should be using his left.
5. The clips don't show him do anything but shoot, so it's unclear what kind of PG he'd be in terms of running the offense and creating scoring opportunities for others.
6. His shot is a little unusual, with a little lower release point. His elbow gets a little flared out which might create a little inconsistency in his shot. He gets off his shots relatively quickly without a lot of wind up or wasted motion.
7. It's hard to tell, but he may not have a lot of verticality to his game.
8. I have no idea what kind of defender he is

So based on what I've seen (which may not be fair since the clips don't show all facets of his game)

1. He doesn't look like our future PG
2. He looks like he'd be an excellent instant offense guy off the bench who could run off of screens or making teams pay for collapsing on Plaisted
3. I see him being the replacement for Mike Rose, not Austin Ainge or Rashaun Broadus.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

http://cougarsportsline.blogspot.com/

After seeing him for the first time, here are some of my thoughts:

1. Has superior range on his shot. He has a couple of pet moves to get open shots off the dribble, but I'm not sure how effective those moves will be at the D1 level
2. Has a solid frame
3. Quickness may be an issue at the D1 level
4. Appears to only be able to go to his right and uses his right hand near the basket when he should be using his left.
5. The clips don't show him do anything but shoot, so it's unclear what kind of PG he'd be in terms of running the offense and creating scoring opportunities for others.
6. His shot is a little unusual, with a little lower release point. His elbow gets a little flared out which might create a little inconsistency in his shot. He gets off his shots relatively quickly without a lot of wind up or wasted motion.
7. It's hard to tell, but he may not have a lot of verticality to his game.
8. I have no idea what kind of defender he is

So based on what I've seen (which may not be fair since the clips don't show all facets of his game)

1. He doesn't look like our future PG
2. He looks like he'd be an excellent instant offense guy off the bench who could run off of screens or making teams pay for collapsing on Plaisted
3. I see him being the replacement for Mike Rose, not Austin Ainge or Rashaun Broadus.

He's 6' 3" 190 -that size along with the ball handling and shot cannot be taught. His size, if he is able to put on some muscle, will allow him to get into the lane at the D1 level.

I hate to make comparisons but he looks and plays a lot like this guy who happens to be 6' 3" 210

http://www.nba.com/draft2005/profile...nWilliams.html

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by tooblue

He's 6' 3" 190 -that size along with the ball handling and shot cannot be taught. His size, if he is able to put on some muscle, will allow him to get into the lane at the D1 level.

I hate to make comparisons but he looks and plays a lot like this guy who happens to be 6' 3" 210

http://www.nba.com/draft2005/profile...nWilliams.html

You must have access to a whole bunch of game film on Fredette that I haven't seen then.

[MikeWaters]

I agree with Indy. I could see him playing the 2, or as a point scorer like Jason Terry (though their games are quite different).

If Fredette ends up being the same quality as Mike Rose, that will be a big disappointment.

One thing that sort of perplexes is me is the competition he is facing. Is New York that whitebread where he is? Hardly ever see a black player on the court. Let's face it, the competition is not all that and there isn't a lot of height on the court. Allowing all those dipsy-doo wrong-handed layups and 4 footers.

I assume that the fact he did well in AAU stuff indicates he can do well against better competition.

One of the real keys here is quickness. It's hard to tell how quick he is. And that will be important on defense especially.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

http://cougarsportsline.blogspot.com/

After seeing him for the first time, here are some of my thoughts:

1. Has superior range on his shot. He has a couple of pet moves to get open shots off the dribble, but I'm not sure how effective those moves will be at the D1 level
2. Has a solid frame
3. Quickness may be an issue at the D1 level
4. Appears to only be able to go to his right and uses his right hand near the basket when he should be using his left.
5. The clips don't show him do anything but shoot, so it's unclear what kind of PG he'd be in terms of running the offense and creating scoring opportunities for others.
6. His shot is a little unusual, with a little lower release point. His elbow gets a little flared out which might create a little inconsistency in his shot. He gets off his shots relatively quickly without a lot of wind up or wasted motion.
7. It's hard to tell, but he may not have a lot of verticality to his game.
8. I have no idea what kind of defender he is

So based on what I've seen (which may not be fair since the clips don't show all facets of his game)

1. He doesn't look like our future PG
2. He looks like he'd be an excellent instant offense guy off the bench who could run off of screens or making teams pay for collapsing on Plaisted
3. I see him being the replacement for Mike Rose, not Austin Ainge or Rashaun Broadus.

Indy with the critical analysis instead of the homer defense. I like it. Keep it up.

Check out the Tyler Haws video and compare it to the Jimmer video. Haws would probably start for BYU as a high school junior. We need this kid.

I'm not going to give up on Jimmer, but the video is a little condemning. Incredible shot, but questionable quickness and athleticism, and level of competition that is pretty much a joke. My 12 yo daughter could defend him better than that poor #14 in the second video.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Indy with the critical analysis instead of the homer defense. I like it. Keep it up.

Check out the Tyler Haws video and compare it to the Jimmer video. Haws would probably start for BYU as a high school junior. We need this kid.

I'm not going to give up on Jimmer, but the video is a little condemning. Incredible shot, but questionable quickness and athleticism, and level of competition that is pretty much a joke. My 12 yo daughter could defend him better than that poor #14 in the second video.

Tyler Haws is probably the most important recruit in the last 10 years, especially if he isn't going to go on a mission.

(I have zero clue about his mission plans)

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

You must have access to a whole bunch of game film on Fredette that I haven't seen then.

My ridiculous comparison is equally ridiculous as your predictions, for we have seen the same game film

Why don't we withhold judgment until we see him play. Now of course we could consider the fact that a number of eastern schools have recruited heavily, namely Syracuse ... I think that's the best evidence to date as to his talent.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Indy with the critical analysis instead of the homer defense. I like it. Keep it up.

Check out the Tyler Haws video and compare it to the Jimmer video. Haws would probably start for BYU as a high school junior. We need this kid.

I'm not going to give up on Jimmer, but the video is a little condemning. Incredible shot, but questionable quickness and athleticism, and level of competition that is pretty much a joke. My 12 yo daughter could defend him better than that poor #14 in the second video.

How do you know the competition is so inferior to that of say Utah High school basketball? You're right, colleges all across America are flocking to the State of Utah for a chance to recruit Utah kids!

[MikeWaters]

I think Utah basketball is inferior as well.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think Utah basketball is inferior as well.

Watch the Collinsworth video and the Haws video, then watch the Jimmer video. It doesn't take much of a trained eye to see that the first two are a significant step up past Jimmer's video in terms of competitiveness. My point is not that Utah basketball is all that great in the first place.