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Archaea · 06-11-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mpfunk

If it hurts the BYU basketball program then I am all for it.

Closing down the Ute program would hurt BYU because we'd be without a natural rival. But then again, I see your point. Go for it.

Sun TzUte · 06-11-2007, 08:58 PM

has less of an impact on our basketball than football success has on our football team.

I could be wrong.

SeattleUte · 06-11-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun TzUte

has less of an impact on our basketball than football success has on our football team.

I could be wrong.

Not sure I agree. DI caliber basketball talent in the state of Utah seems to me to be proportionately more rare than football. When BYU basketball is thriving BYU always has the edge with kids from practicing LDS families. Utah can only combat that with superior success. Local players haven't been the best basketball Utes, but they have been indispensable and formed a significant percentage of the best basketball Utes. Virtually all of these have been LDS.

Sun TzUte · 06-11-2007, 09:20 PM

but I attribute a portion of this to the fact that Majerus was an easy target for the BYU coaching staff in their pitch to an active LDS player. Juddy also had an impact on this as he was able to elaborate on the type of environment that the kids would face at the U.

Boylen seems to get the fact that respect for varying beliefs is important and will be tougher to recruit against.

Truthfully, however, there are some who would go to BYU even if they just finished 1-25 and the U were 25-1 and had an LDS head coach with 3 GA's as assistats. Some people just want to go to BYU.

cougjunkie · 06-13-2007, 01:36 AM

its official BYUs rivals site has it listed that Cameron has signed with USC to play tight end. Sorry Goatnapper i know its weird but its true.

Archaea · 06-13-2007, 01:39 AM

Strange he wasn't rated as highly in football as he was in basketball.

cougjunkie · 06-13-2007, 02:26 AM

decent stats his senior year:

Cameron earned first-team all-league and second-team all-county after his senior season when he caught 76 receptions for 1,034 yards and scored 12 touchdowns.

livecoug · 06-13-2007, 02:48 AM

what the hell??? It's really true..

il Padrino Ute · 06-13-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by livecoug

what the hell??? It's really true..

It's true the kid is transferring?

cougjunkie · 06-13-2007, 04:07 AM

here is the rivals article:

The great poet Robert Frost once mused about the road less taken. The award winning playwright Edward Albee explained in his outstanding play, "The Zoo Story", that one sometimes must take the long route before making it home correctly. That is the story of USC's latest commitment.

The Trojans picked up the commitment today of tight end/slotback Jordan Cameron (6-4, 230, 4.6) who played high school football and basketball at Newbury Park, Calif.

When Cameron gradated as part of the class of 2006, he only weighted about 180-pounds so he decided to accept a basketball scholarship from BYU.

Something happened while Cameron was redshirt frosh at the Provo, Utah campus. He filled out and didn't lose a step.

All of a sudden football definitely became an option and once he was given his release from BYU, schools such as USC, UCLA and Michigan came a calling for his services.

Cameron visited with the UCLA coaching staff on Saturday and was at USC today.

"I like Pete Carroll, he's a player's coach," Cameron said. "I wanted to play for a guy like that.

"My sister also goes to USC and I'm going to live with her," Cameron said. "It is a good opportunity to spend time with sister and her baby.

"USC wants me to gain 20-pounds and make the move to tight end," Cameron said. "I will sit out the year, bulk up and work on my speed and footwork.

"I haven't played football for two years so I will have to shake the rust off," Cameron said. "I'm excited to be at USC, to be close to my family and make a career out of football."

Cameron earned first-team all-league and second-team all-county after his senior season when he caught 76 receptions for 1,034 yards and scored 12 touchdowns.

06-11-2007, 08:58 PM	#12
Sun TzUte Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5	I think that BYU's basketball success has less of an impact on our basketball than football success has on our football team. I could be wrong.

06-11-2007, 09:20 PM	#14
Sun TzUte Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5	I see what you are saying but I attribute a portion of this to the fact that Majerus was an easy target for the BYU coaching staff in their pitch to an active LDS player. Juddy also had an impact on this as he was able to elaborate on the type of environment that the kids would face at the U. Boylen seems to get the fact that respect for varying beliefs is important and will be tougher to recruit against. Truthfully, however, there are some who would go to BYU even if they just finished 1-25 and the U were 25-1 and had an LDS head coach with 3 GA's as assistats. Some people just want to go to BYU. __________________ Sun TzUte a.k.a. UtePimp

06-13-2007, 01:36 AM	#15
cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	its official BYUs rivals site has it listed that Cameron has signed with USC to play tight end. Sorry Goatnapper i know its weird but its true. __________________ LINCECUM!

06-13-2007, 01:39 AM	#16
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Strange he wasn't rated as highly in football as he was in basketball. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

06-13-2007, 02:26 AM	#17
cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	decent stats his senior year: Cameron earned first-team all-league and second-team all-county after his senior season when he caught 76 receptions for 1,034 yards and scored 12 touchdowns. __________________ LINCECUM!

06-13-2007, 02:48 AM	#18
livecoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,176	what the hell??? It's really true..

06-13-2007, 04:07 AM	#20
cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	here is the rivals article: The great poet Robert Frost once mused about the road less taken. The award winning playwright Edward Albee explained in his outstanding play, "The Zoo Story", that one sometimes must take the long route before making it home correctly. That is the story of USC's latest commitment. The Trojans picked up the commitment today of tight end/slotback Jordan Cameron (6-4, 230, 4.6) who played high school football and basketball at Newbury Park, Calif. When Cameron gradated as part of the class of 2006, he only weighted about 180-pounds so he decided to accept a basketball scholarship from BYU. Something happened while Cameron was redshirt frosh at the Provo, Utah campus. He filled out and didn't lose a step. All of a sudden football definitely became an option and once he was given his release from BYU, schools such as USC, UCLA and Michigan came a calling for his services. Cameron visited with the UCLA coaching staff on Saturday and was at USC today. "I like Pete Carroll, he's a player's coach," Cameron said. "I wanted to play for a guy like that. "My sister also goes to USC and I'm going to live with her," Cameron said. "It is a good opportunity to spend time with sister and her baby. "USC wants me to gain 20-pounds and make the move to tight end," Cameron said. "I will sit out the year, bulk up and work on my speed and footwork. "I haven't played football for two years so I will have to shake the rust off," Cameron said. "I'm excited to be at USC, to be close to my family and make a career out of football." Cameron earned first-team all-league and second-team all-county after his senior season when he caught 76 receptions for 1,034 yards and scored 12 touchdowns. __________________ LINCECUM!