The fact that MOV isn't considered by the computers is really hurting BYU.

[Cali Coug]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

If MOV is considered, Sagarin has us at 11. When it isn't considered, we are at 35 (which gives us 0 BCS points for that poll).

Odd, given Bronco's aversion to running up the score. Even with that aversion, BYU is performing at a rate that would improve their ranking on Sagarin by 24 spots.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm

If MOV is considered, Sagarin has us at 11. When it isn't considered, we are at 35 (which gives us 0 BCS points for that poll).

Odd, given Bronco's aversion to running up the score. Even with that aversion, BYU is performing at a rate that would improve their ranking on Sagarin by 24 spots.

What an idiotic thing to consider. A more competitive schedule makes for lower MOV. The reward should go to teams beating competitive teams. Not RUTS on totally incompetent teams. Considering MOV is even of questionable ethics, for a lot of reasons, I would argue.

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What an idiotic thing to consider. A more competitive schedule makes for lower MOV. The reward should go to teams beating competitive teams. Not RUTS on totally incompetent teams. Considering MOV is even of questionable ethics, for a lot of reasons, I would argue.

Then both BYU and Utah should be outside the top 25, because neither team has played anyone of note, until Thursday of course.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Then both BYU and Utah should be outside the top 25, because neither team has played anyone of note, until Thursday of course.

OSU is of note. It has the inside track on the Pac 10 title, and beat USC. Michigan and AFA are not of no note, either.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Michigan and AFA are not of no note, either.

When I read this I laughed so hard I snorted.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

When I read this I laughed so hard I snorted.

Good. THat was the intent.

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

OSU is of note. It has the inside track on the Pac 10 title, and beat USC. Michigan and AFA are not of no note, either.

You are right, how could I forget about those 3 juggernauts. Utah should ranked number 1.

[ute4ever]

Juggernaut Utah isn't #1 in the Colley Matrix, but is #4. They're also #4 in the Sagarin ELO-Chess. That's a start.

Those silly BCS computers need to slip on the blue goggles because obviously they don't understand that Utah is way too high and BYU is too low, the latter of which will be demonstrated on Thursday.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What an idiotic thing to consider. A more competitive schedule makes for lower MOV. The reward should go to teams beating competitive teams. Not RUTS on totally incompetent teams. Considering MOV is even of questionable ethics, for a lot of reasons, I would argue.

It isn't idiotic. In fact, according to Sagarin himself, the Predictor (which takes MOV into consideration) is more accurate than Elo-Chess (which doesn't take MOV into consideration). That doesn't bode well for the Utes, however, as it would drop them from 4 to 23.

Oddly, in the SU predictor, the top 5 is as follows:

1. Utah
2. Michigan
3. Oregon State
4. Weber State
5. Utah State
5.5 Air Force

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What an idiotic thing to consider. A more competitive schedule makes for lower MOV. The reward should go to teams beating competitive teams. Not RUTS on totally incompetent teams. Considering MOV is even of questionable ethics, for a lot of reasons, I would argue.

You ignorant bastard. Anyone with half a brain would recognize that a combination of SOS and MOV is the most accurate way to evaluate team strength.