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Old 01-07-2014, 07:04 AM   #1
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Default Mormons, Jews, among most successful groups, says Tiger Mom

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Back to the topic at hand....I've come to the opinion that there is a strong connection between successful college preparation and later activity in the church.

Those that have their crap together at 18 are much more likely to remain active in the church.

They tend to come from stronger more educated and active families.

Thus failure to prepare for life as a teenager is often a symptom of other problems in a family. There are of course exceptions.

I think the YM programs in general ought to do more to help with college prep (YW program too). But even though I recognize this and try to act on it, there's only so much I can do. I can't be monitoring their homework. And by the time they get to me their habits and patterns in school are already established.

When I was a scoutmaster, of all the boys in my troop, only one had a father who was a college graduate.
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Back to the topic at hand....I've come to the opinion that there is a strong connection between successful college preparation and later activity in the church.

Those that have their crap together at 18 are much more likely to remain active in the church.

They tend to come from stronger more educated and active families.

Thus failure to prepare for life as a teenager is often a symptom of other problems in a family. There are of course exceptions.

I think the YM programs in general ought to do more to help with college prep (YW program too). But even though I recognize this and try to act on it, there's only so much I can do. I can't be monitoring their homework. And by the time they get to me their habits and patterns in school are already established.

When I was a scoutmaster, of all the boys in my troop, only one had a father who was a college graduate.
There are examples of inspired teachers motivating children to college, even though their parents didn't attend college.

Two movies based on real events, one involving Joe Carter, and one involving a math teacher in Southern California. The movie starred Edward James Olamos (sp?).
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apparently it's so rare that people end up making movies about it when it happens.
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I had a roommate whose HS-dropout father joined the Church. His father cheated on and beat his mom. All 7 of his sons graduated from college. How? Their Texas ward was primarily engineers in the oil and gas industry, serving as role models.
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I've seen it too. Inactive family. Father involved in crime and murdered. Minority race. Mother to a large degree a flake from what I could tell.

Oldest kid has the gumption to get into college and get a decent job. Helped support the family. 2 or 3 of the other kids followed suit in similar ways. 2 of the kids chose the street life.

Why did that first kid make it? He had something in him.
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nothing to do with LDS, but I've also seen a kid beat all the odds, foster care becomes a successful doctor, married with kids, and then claimed and felled by demons. Drugs. Dead.

Sad thing. Never assume the fight is over.
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Mannish or not?

And that is an uncharitable angle. Remember she is 51.

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