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Old 08-12-2008, 05:20 PM   #51
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Are you really going to argue that we haven't seen a devaluation of the dollar's worth over the last ten years?
No, Barbara. I'm going to argue that #1, it's quite normal, and #2, it has not much to do with Bush's presidency.

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Wow. And you guys think Obama's naively idealistic.
That it doesn't represent reality does not explain why people wish for it to be so.
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:35 PM   #52
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No, Barbara. I'm going to argue that #1, it's quite normal, and #2, it has not much to do with Bush's presidency.
oh. okay. That seems reasonable.


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oh. okay. That seems reasonable.
I didn't read close enough. I thought we were talking about inflation.
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Old 08-12-2008, 06:58 PM   #54
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Really? Could have fooled me. Looking through our election pamphlet I was struck by the overall medioctrity in their prior lives. Our incumbant AG is a singular exception. He was Law Review at Chicago. Most if not all of the rest lived very undistinguished lives before entering politics.

I think what makes a successful politician is a mystery. I suspect an ability to suffer fools gladly is important. Beyond that, it's a mysery. But I'm quite sure being among "the best and the brightest" is not a prerquisite. They are like us, only in some cases less exemplary.
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Okay, what nonsense is this? Inflation year-to-year has on average stayed in the same range for about 15 years, which includes both Republican AND Democrat presidents. You have to go back to 1991 to find where it (annually) last crossed 4%.

Of all the arguments for or against McCain, inflation is one of the silliest. It has largely been neutralized as a political issue since the Reagan era.

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Because these are supposed to be the best and the brightest.

It goes back to Huckabee's inane comment about "I remind you more of the guy you work with than the guy who laid you off." I've been laid off before. I don't want most of the "guys I work with" elected President. And I sure as hell would rather have someone running a business who actually understands economics running the country, even if it means laying people off.

The President should be someone who represents the best America has to offer, not its lowest common denominator.

If you want someone who actually understands economics running this country, are you now endorsing Obama over McCain? McCain clearly, and by his own admission, doesn't understand economics at all.
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If you want someone who actually understands economics running this country, are you now endorsing Obama over McCain? McCain clearly, and by his own admission, doesn't understand economics at all.
Don't be an idiot, Cali. I wasn't talking about McCain vs. Obama. I'm talking about "guy you work with" vs. "guy who laid you off." It's a hypothetical.
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Don't be an idiot, Cali. I wasn't talking about McCain vs. Obama. I'm talking about "guy you work with" vs. "guy who laid you off." It's a hypothetical.
Don't get sucked into the Dance of Death, Tex.
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Don't be an idiot, Cali. I wasn't talking about McCain vs. Obama. I'm talking about "guy you work with" vs. "guy who laid you off." It's a hypothetical.
So you offer a hypothetical, but then don't really want to discuss its practical applications? What, pray tell, is the point of your hypothetical?

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"And I sure as hell would rather have someone running a business who actually understands economics running the country, even if it means laying people off."

It begs the question: what makes you conclude that McCain has any real understanding of economics?
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If you want someone who actually understands economics running this country, are you now endorsing Obama over McCain? McCain clearly, and by his own admission, doesn't understand economics at all.
If the country wanted someone who understands the economy, Romney was the only choice.
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So you offer a hypothetical, but then don't really want to discuss its practical applications? What, pray tell, is the point of your hypothetical?
The point was to respond to Barbara's comment about why people expect more from their leaders than of themselves (or of the Average Joe).

I'm not playing this little game with you yet again.
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