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MikeWaters · 10-01-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Come on. Who cares about the Sears Cup? We are talking football.

Perhaps if we really were a BCS-caliber team, we would win more OOC games and always go undefeated in such a crappy conference.

I am not talking about BCS-caliber team (sorry if I said that). I am talking about the fact we are a BCS-caliber program. We have a diversified strong athletic program in a wide diversity of sports, that conferences like the pac-10 care about.

BYU71 · 10-01-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Neither would Baylor. What's your point?

BYU is in a really weak, bad conference. The fact that there are heated arguments on CB about which conference is stronger WAC vs. MWC, should tell you something.

Baby steps Mike. Bronco knows he has to get back to at least winning the MWC. Once he gets there and BYU goes out and asks for more money, I think Holmoe and Bronco know they will have to deliver some national attention stuff.

Goatnapper'96 · 10-01-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Neither would Baylor. What's your point?

BYU is in a really weak, bad conference. The fact that there are heated arguments on CB about which conference is stronger WAC vs. MWC, should tell you something.

The point is BYU being a BCS caliber school means nothing, to me.

BYU is in a situation that it is likely to never get out of. I don't think it is something that they can control so I see no reason to allow it to cause me to pull string. I will evaluate BYU by what it can do with what it has. I like what I see out of Mendenhall. The overall program has not looked this sound in a very long time.

Goatnapper'96 · 10-01-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I am not talking about BCS-caliber team (sorry if I said that). I am talking about the fact we are a BCS-caliber program. We have a diversified strong athletic program in a wide diversity of sports, that conferences like the pac-10 care about.

BYU is never going to the Pac-10 and you know why. No reason to even spend too much time thinking about it.

Besides that with all your wanting BYU to be genuinely bigtime, you should be smart enough to know that BYU's impediments will consistently ensure that it will never compete well in the Pac-10. I don't think BYU can recruit, sign and keep in school enough talented skill players to consistently compete with the Pac-10. They will have their good years, but BYU fans clamoring for the Pac-10 should enjoy winning an ugly game against UNM.

Archaea · 10-01-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

The point is BYU being a BCS caliber school means nothing, to me.

BYU is in a situation that it is likely to never get out of. I don't think it is something that they can control so I see no reason to allow it to cause me to pull string. I will evaluate BYU by what it can do with what it has. I like what I see out of Mendenhall. The overall program has not looked this sound in a very long time.

Agreed. Now if the urban conversion ratio would just accelerate, focusing more upon potential corner backs, receivers and running backs, things would even look better. Could you please your Arrington connections to put in a good word for more missionaries to Chicago, Detroit, DC and Philly, a few more in Miami and Jacksonville?

MikeWaters · 10-01-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Goatnapper'96

BYU is never going to the Pac-10 and you know why. No reason to even spend too much time thinking about it.

Besides that with all your wanting BYU to be genuinely bigtime, you should be smart enough to know that BYU's impediments will consistently ensure that it will never compete well in the Pac-10. I don't think BYU can recruit, sign and keep in school enough talented skill players to consistently compete with the Pac-10. They will have their good years, but BYU fans clamoring for the Pac-10 should enjoy winning an ugly game against UNM.

Money will decide if BYU is invited to a BCS conference. Nothing else.

Surfah · 10-01-2007, 07:40 PM

I agree with Mike on this one. Are we supposed to be content with competing for the MWC crown every year? BYU should win it every year. The MWC sucks.

Tex · 10-01-2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by surfah33

I agree with Mike on this one. Are we supposed to be content with competing for the MWC crown every year? BYU should win it every year. The MWC sucks.

And yet, since we don't ... what does that say about us, hmm?

Jeff Lebowski · 10-01-2007, 07:58 PM

What's the matter with you wusses? We won the MWC title outright last year and we are going to win it again this year. Get a grip, people.

Surfah · 10-01-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

And yet, since we don't ... what does that say about us, hmm?

That we are not a BCS caliber program which is where I guess I differ in my opinion from Mike.

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Surfah Master Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: F'burg, VA Posts: 3,211	I agree with Mike on this one. Are we supposed to be content with competing for the MWC crown every year? BYU should win it every year. The MWC sucks. __________________ Ernie Johnson: "Auburn is a pretty good school. To graduate from there I suppose you really need to work hard and put forth maximum effort." Charles Barkley: "20 pts and 10 rebounds will get you through also!"

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Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	What's the matter with you wusses? We won the MWC title outright last year and we are going to win it again this year. Get a grip, people. __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr.