Let me ask one of the forbidden questions...

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

that's what I hate about millenial thinking. The idea that when things are going to hell, they are going right.

Wake up. We're supposed to build a better world. We are supposed to be just.

I have a Jewish colleague who told me, "you know what I like about Mormons? Like Jews, they believe the world can be redeemed."

GBH has specifically counseled against this crap kind of millenial thinking.

And yet the Jews are notoriously stubborn and unwilling to back down on this issue.

I'm wide awake. And you're painfully naive. (But thanks for letting me post on your board).

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

GBH has specifically counseled against this crap kind of millenial thinking.

What are you talking about? Any day now he's going to get on BYUTV and tell us all to begin stockpiling weapons along with our food storage

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

And yet the Jews are notoriously stubborn and unwilling to back down on this issue.

I'm wide awake. And you're painfully naive. (But thanks for letting me post on your board).

I'm naive? For saying that if the Jews don't compromise, they will suffer? I'm quite certain of my prediction. What I'm not certain is if there is a scenario where they don't suffer and don't send their children into the great hereafter.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm naive? For saying that if the Jews don't compromise, they will suffer? I'm quite certain of my prediction. What I'm not certain is if there is a scenario where they don't suffer and don't send their children into the great hereafter.

I agree with Mike that we should not look to canon or apocalyptic scripture to make future events. We should rely upon scriptural principles, but not apocalyptic predictions. Let the future unwind as it should without us trying to force it into a certain pattern.

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm naive? For saying that if the Jews don't compromise, they will suffer?

I just meant it's never flowers and birdies and we are the world. Ofcourse the Jews have suffered and will suffer. That's part of the whole plan too as far as I can understand.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

I just meant it's never flowers and birdies and we are the world. Ofcourse the Jews have suffered and will suffer. That's part of the whole plan too as far as I can understand.

From the greatest movie ever made: "Nothing is written."

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I agree with Mike that we should not look to canon or apocalyptic scripture to make future events. We should rely upon scriptural principles, but not apocalyptic predictions. Let the future unwind as it should without us trying to force it into a certain pattern.

That's exactly how things have unwinded. In my mind, there is a certain stupidity in trying as hard as you can to make sure things "unwind" differently that what's been prophesied.

So I probably sound like a nutjob. Meh. Jews began migrating back to the Holy Land in the 16th Century.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

From the greatest movie ever made: "Nothing is written."

I don't remember ever hearing that in Caddyshack.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

That's exactly how things have unwinded. In my mind, there is a certain stupidity in trying as hard as you can to make sure things "unwind" differently that what's been prophesied.

Whenever you feel like you have to kill, rape, or torture someone in order to fulfill a prophecy or divine command, I suggest you pause and reconsider.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

That's exactly how things have unwinded. In my mind, there is a certain stupidity in trying as hard as you can to make sure things "unwind" differently that what's been prophesied.

I would ignore our interpretation of prophesy, and stop trying to force round pegs into square holes. WE made a mistake making the Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Even the "Ugandan" option, actually Kenya would have been better and so would Africa had prospered. Try not to fulfill ambiguous prophecy but try to do what is good and right.