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Old 10-03-2007, 06:24 PM   #21
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So your answer is yes...that you prefer not getting things right then.

Okay.
I think one could make a decent argument that instant replay hasn't changed things much as far as "getting things right", and that it takes up too much time getting (or not getting) there. Yes, they sometimes get it right, but I'm not sure it's often enough to make it worthwhile.

On the play that's causing all of this replay in baseball talk, I'm not sure you could even overturn the call. You can't see exactly where his hand is under the catcher foot, and doesn't the ump signal "safe" before the tag (after the cather had retrieved the ball)? To me that'd be the equivalent of blowing the whistle as Holliday had time to get back to the bag.

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Old 10-03-2007, 06:26 PM   #22
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I think one could make a decent argument that instant replay hasn't changed things much as far as "getting things right", and that it takes up too much time getting (or not getting) there. Yes, they sometimes get it right, but I'm not sure it's often enough to make it worthwhile.
I will agree that there are times where it takes way too long.

However I think that it has made a huge difference in righting several wrongs.

That right there to me is paramount over the few extra minutes it takes to make it right.
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:33 PM   #23
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I will agree that there are times where it takes way too long.

However I think that it has made a huge difference in righting several wrongs.

That right there to me is paramount over the few extra minutes it takes to make it right.
I don't know that I can agree that's it righted enough wrongs. Maybe I just remember the overturns that go against my team.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:00 AM   #24
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So your answer is yes...that you prefer not getting things right then.

Okay.
I didn't say that at all, but perhaps that is how you interpret what I said.

I prefer the human element. I don't see it as wrong or right. I see it as a call made from the perspective of the umpire.

The vast majority of the time the game isn't decided at the plate in the bottom of the 13th inning on a call by the umpire, but by the players throughout the game. Had this same Halliday who benefited from the call at the end not overplayed a fly ball, the Padres would not have scored the tying run in the late innings of regulation and it would not have gone extra innings. So the human element was there again.
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I didn't say that at all, but perhaps that is how you interpret what I said.

I prefer the human element. I don't see it as wrong or right. I see it as a call made from the perspective of the umpire.

The vast majority of the time the game isn't decided at the plate in the bottom of the 13th inning on a call by the umpire, but by the players throughout the game. Had this same Halliday who benefited from the call at the end not overplayed a fly ball, the Padres would not have scored the tying run in the late innings of regulation and it would not have gone extra innings. So the human element was there again.
Well if you didn't say yes like you claim,,,then what is your definitive answer?
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Well if you didn't say yes like you claim,,,then what is your definitive answer?
I don't think I have a definitive answer to your question. I prefer the human element. Sometimes the humans get it right, sometimes they don't.

I hope you can accept that for my answer.
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I don't think I have a definitive answer to your question. I prefer the human element. Sometimes the humans get it right, sometimes they don't.

I hope you can accept that for my answer.
So basically you have a no answer answer.

Didn't think of you as the lawyer type.
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So basically you have a no answer answer.

Didn't think of you as the lawyer type.
Nice shot. I'm going to have to take a knee for a bit.
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