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TheSizzle36 · 06-26-2008, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Poor Indy. It must really suck to not get over the fact that BYU was Majerus' bitch.

LaVell >> Majerus

I like football more than basketball anyways, so I'm fine with Majerus >>>> Reid.

il Padrino Ute · 06-26-2008, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle36

LaVell >> Majerus

I like football more than basketball anyways, so I'm fine with Majerus >>>> Reid.

The difference between you and Indy is that you can live with that fact.

MikeWaters · 06-26-2008, 05:22 AM

If Majerus had won the NC, then Majerus over Lavell.

DrumNFeather · 06-26-2008, 06:28 PM

Mock draft 7.0 has Plaisted going home to San Antonio at 57.

TheSizzle36 · 06-26-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If Majerus had won the NC, then Majerus over Lavell.

Here is where I disagree. How many former BYU Football players have nothing but respect for Lavell? How many former Ute basketball players had issues with Majerus? There is no denying Majerus' success as a basketball coach at the U, however, the general respect for Lavell from EVERYBODY (how many people can you think of that don't respect Lavell and what he did?) combined with some of the disdain for Majerus, combined with the way Majerus left and his career shortly after (USC, then not, then St. Louis) further cements Lavell over Majerus IMO.

MikeWaters · 06-26-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle36

Here is where I disagree. How many former BYU Football players have nothing but respect for Lavell? How many former Ute basketball players had issues with Majerus? There is no denying Majerus' success as a basketball coach at the U, however, the general respect for Lavell from EVERYBODY (how many people can you think of that don't respect Lavell and what he did?) combined with some of the disdain for Majerus, combined with the way Majerus left and his career shortly after (USC, then not, then St. Louis) further cements Lavell over Majerus IMO.

winning a basketball NC is more impressive than winning a "mythical" football NC.

Clark Addison · 06-27-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

winning a basketball NC is more impressive than winning a "mythical" football NC.

So does that mean that Jim Harrick > LaVell?

Obviously Steve Fisher is.

MikeWaters · 06-27-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Clark Addison

So does that mean that Jim Harrick > LaVell?

Obviously Steve Fisher is.

you have to figure in the school as well. If Fisher takes SDSU to the NC, yes that is stunning and amazing. Majerus took a school in a small state with rural population that had no business being with the big boys, and he almost took it all. That is amazing.

DrumNFeather · 06-27-2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSizzle36

Here is where I disagree. How many former BYU Football players have nothing but respect for Lavell? How many former Ute basketball players had issues with Majerus? There is no denying Majerus' success as a basketball coach at the U, however, the general respect for Lavell from EVERYBODY (how many people can you think of that don't respect Lavell and what he did?) combined with some of the disdain for Majerus, combined with the way Majerus left and his career shortly after (USC, then not, then St. Louis) further cements Lavell over Majerus IMO.

I am no Majerus defender, but I would say that most, if not all of the players that made it through his program respect Majerus.

Sure, occasionally someone will post on CB that they met Britton or Jeff Johnson in the bathroom of a Wendey's and the Johnsons naturally pour their heart out about how much they wished they'd gone to BYU and how much they hate Majerus to this complete stranger. But other than that, most of the negative remarks about Majerus I've read have come from former players that quit his program...and Gordon Monson.

I think comparing the two is apples/oranges anyway, but I tend to believe that you'd find former Lavell guys that didn't make it through the program that might have a bad thing or two to say about Lavell...that is the nature of being a top notch coach, you can't keep everyone and you can't please everyone.

myboynoah · 06-27-2008, 12:32 PM

Did Lavell ever call a deaf player an embarrasment to handicapped people? If he had, then maybe he would have Mike's respect.

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