Andew Sullivan on Bush's similarties to Nazis and others

[MikeWaters]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...fte_verne.html

I really hate people that pretend there is no moral cost to what we do. Especially Mormons who pretend this.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...fte_verne.html

I really hate people that pretend there is no moral cost to what we do. Especially Mormons who pretend this.

As long as we're hating people ("hate the person, not the .... wait, what was that again?") ... I really hate people who think there is any moral comparison on any level whatsoever between us and the Nazis.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

As long as we're hating people ("hate the person, not the .... wait, what was that again?") ... I really hate people who think there is any moral comparison on any level whatsoever between us and the Nazis.

Of course you don't. Monochrome Tex.

[BYU71]

have liberal views such as yourself express "hate" for people. I thought that was something conservatives did.

I like Sullivan but he is an idiot when it comes to his views.

[MikeWaters]

I think people that don't give a damn about civil liberties are a threat to this country, and I am a patriot.

Hate is not the appropriate word. It's not an emotion. It's a calculation and a plan.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think people that don't give a damn about civil liberties are a threat to this country, and I am a patriot.

Hate is not the appropriate word. It's not an emotion. It's a calculation and a plan.

It's good thing I care about civil liberties then, isn't it.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

It's good thing I care about civil liberties then, isn't it.

Good for you. Then we are on the same side.

I am very disturbed that an American citizen can be declared an unlawful combatant, without any judicial procedure or counterbalance, and never see the light of day again.

I can't tell you how much it disappoints me that so many professed conservatives don't see the danger in this. Perhaps they are too young to remember the Cold War.

It's amazing that we somehow protected our civil liberties more when we were threatened with nuclear Armageddon than we are when threatened by a man living in a cave in Pakistan.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Of course you don't. Monochrome Tex.

Have any spare peanuts?

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Good for you. Then we are on the same side.

I am very disturbed that an American citizen can be declared an unlawful combatant, without any judicial procedure or counterbalance, and never see the light of day again.

I can't tell you how much it disappoints me that so many professed conservatives don't see the danger in this. Perhaps they are too young to remember the Cold War.

It's amazing that we somehow protected our civil liberties more when we were threatened with nuclear Armageddon than we are when threatened by a man living in a cave in Pakistan.

*Yawn* ... I guess we're back to the torture debate. That time of the month, is it?

Perhaps they are old enough to remember 9/11.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

Have any spare peanuts?

Come on, Tex. You can do better than that.

Ironically, your refusal to see any moral comparisons "on any level whatsoever" makes you more similar to the Nazis, not less. It's precisely that kind of thinking that is dangerous.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Come on, Tex. You can do better than that.

Ironically, your refusal to see any moral comparisons "on any level whatsoever" makes you more similar to the Nazis, not less. It's precisely that kind of thinking that is dangerous.

My, my, that is a new one. The more I think I'm not like the Nazis, the more I am like the Nazis! What wonderfully silly logic! I tip my hat to you, though, for coming up with something original in this drab debate.

More and more, I'm finding this obsession with comparing us to the Nazis interesting. It's almost like there's a subliminal desire to identify with them somehow.

Originally Posted by Barbara Gordon

What's 9/11?

The full-service successor to 7/11. Great slurpies!