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Archaea · 03-21-2007, 04:28 PM

thoughts?

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anomalous-monism/

Smart guys, SIEQ, Seattle, Pelagius, Solon, AA, Dan and Creekster and Utah Dan and anybody else I might have forgotten.

Strange, at least a little bit don't you think?

Solon · 03-22-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

thoughts?

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anomalous-monism/

Smart guys, SIEQ, Seattle, Pelagius, Solon, AA, Dan and Creekster and Utah Dan and anybody else I might have forgotten.

Strange, at least a little bit don't you think?

I think you're going to have to remove me from that list of Smart Guys. I spent an hour last night trying to wrap my head around this. What a trip. I think some philosophers outsmart themselves.

Sorry I'm not much help.

Archaea · 03-22-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Solon

I think you're going to have to remove me from that list of Smart Guys. I spent an hour last night trying to wrap my head around this. What a trip. I think some philosophers outsmart themselves.

Sorry I'm not much help.

It's taking a while for me to wrap my head around it, but from amongst you, SIEQ, Pelagius, Chapel and AA, somebody will be able to explain it to me.

Chapel-Hill-Coug · 03-22-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

thoughts?

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anomalous-monism/

Smart guys, SIEQ, Seattle, Pelagius, Solon, AA, Dan and Creekster and Utah Dan and anybody else I might have forgotten.

Strange, at least a little bit don't you think?

Wow...I'm lost with this one. All I know is that I 'choose' to believe I have free will and act accordingly. Of course that is superficial with respect to this argument and not at all helpful to you. ;-)

Archaea · 03-22-2007, 04:06 PM

In some way, the arguments feel like some redefinition of Plato's Forms and Descartes' discussion of causality. I know that's not what's going on, but it looks and feels as if we're returning to the ancient debates between Plato and Aristotle.

Jeff Lebowski · 03-22-2007, 04:37 PM

(burp)

Archaea · 03-22-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

(burp)

Takes an engineer to make the only intelligent comment.

creekster · 03-22-2007, 05:28 PM

It has been very nice to have basked in the light (false though it be) of the smart guys list. Honesty, and not modesty, compels me to admit that I have no idea what this guy is talking about. I looked at it for a while last night, started to give myself a headache, and then decided to just play the uke a little and go to bed.

Archaea · 03-22-2007, 05:50 PM

The more I think of it, it bears some relationship to some of the discussions espoused by Joseph Smith, even though he didn't speak in those terms.

Remember discussions of "tiny intelligence theory", which Skousen loved to espouse?

Basically, no matter is "other" or "immaterial". Look at the section on Bare Materialism and see if that doesn't resemble some of those debates.

Sleeping in EQ · 03-24-2007, 01:32 PM

I'll have to read this. Some of my usual thinkers are concerned with Monism. It's the stone rejected by the builders...

03-21-2007, 04:28 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	anomolous monism thoughts? http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anomalous-monism/ Smart guys, SIEQ, Seattle, Pelagius, Solon, AA, Dan and Creekster and Utah Dan and anybody else I might have forgotten. Strange, at least a little bit don't you think? __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

03-22-2007, 04:06 PM	#5
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	In some way, the arguments feel like some redefinition of Plato's Forms and Descartes' discussion of causality. I know that's not what's going on, but it looks and feels as if we're returning to the ancient debates between Plato and Aristotle. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

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Jeff Lebowski Charon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the heart of darkness (Provo) Posts: 9,564	(burp) __________________ "... the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Martin Luther King, Jr.

03-22-2007, 05:28 PM	#8
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	It has been very nice to have basked in the light (false though it be) of the smart guys list. Honesty, and not modesty, compels me to admit that I have no idea what this guy is talking about. I looked at it for a while last night, started to give myself a headache, and then decided to just play the uke a little and go to bed. __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.

03-22-2007, 05:50 PM	#9
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	The more I think of it, it bears some relationship to some of the discussions espoused by Joseph Smith, even though he didn't speak in those terms. Remember discussions of "tiny intelligence theory", which Skousen loved to espouse? Basically, no matter is "other" or "immaterial". Look at the section on Bare Materialism and see if that doesn't resemble some of those debates. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

03-24-2007, 01:32 PM	#10
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	I'll have to read this. Some of my usual thinkers are concerned with Monism. It's the stone rejected by the builders... __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.