Bad news for Palin

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Levin

I agree wholeheartedly. And in any event, taken the salient underlying facts, I don't care if she did abuse her power. Any trooper that (1) taser's his own son (using a weapon of the State to punish his child; (2) drinks on the job; (3) makes death threats against the executive familiy -- should be fired without any delay.

The question isn't whether or not the trooper should have been fired, but whether or not Palin fired the trooper's boss for refusing to fire the trooper.

The panel concluded she had no motive to do so other than personal reasons, which is an abuse of power.

The investigation began before anyone would have guessed that Palin would be the VP nominee. The investigation was approved by a bipartisan panel consisting of 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats. The vote was unanimous. Palin and her favorite creationist supporter, SU, want to argue that this was all a politically-motivated act, but that just doesn't comport with the facts.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Levin

I agree wholeheartedly. And in any event, taken the salient underlying facts, I don't care if she did abuse her power. Any trooper that (1) taser's his own son (using a weapon of the State to punish his child; (2) drinks on the job; (3) makes death threats against the executive familiy -- should be fired without any delay.

You agree "wholeheartedly? SU was arguing that she wasn't given due process. Now you argue that you don't give a shit about due process.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

Are those things really true? I'm not convinced.

I understand he admits he tasered the step son. Nor have the charges of drunkenness on the job been controverted either, really. If the crazy cop denies it, then you need to decide who's telling the truth, the crazy cop or impartial witnesses.

Still, I agree the cop himself is entitled to due process per state and federal law. But this report is rank hearsay.

This morning NPR acknowledged that the report was politically motivated. NPR also noted that it's possible to admire Palin for making so many political enemies in a state where political corruption is so rife, even in her own party.

Bottom line: it's politics.

[SeattleUte]

Also, the most powerful force at work here may be Judge Ito complex. These small-time political hacks weren't going to pass up a chance at fifteen minutes of fame and opportunity for advancement.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I understand he admits he tasered the step son. Nor have the charges of drunkenness on the job been controverted either, really. If the crazy cop denies it, then you need to decide who's telling the truth, the crazy cop or impartial witnesses.

Still, I agree the cop himself is entitled to due process per state and federal law. But this report is rank hearsay.

This morning NPR acknowledged that the report was politically motivated. NPR also noted that it's possible to admire Palin for making so many political enemies in a state where political corruption is so rife, even in her own party.

Bottom line: it's politics.

What is the basis for you concluding that the report was politically motivated? It was approved by a vote of 14-0 (10 Republicans and 4 Democrats all voting yes). It began before she was named VP. It has always been scheduled for release prior to the election (originally, it was to be released at the end of October, so moving it up is more likely than not beneficial to Palin).

If it has become political, it is because Palin made it so. She and her husband initially indicated they would cooperate. They initially did cooperate. She was then nominated as VP, and all cooperation ceased. Instead, an army of attorneys from the McCain campaign flew to Alaska and tried to shut the investigation down. Palin and her husband were then subpoenaed, and they still refused to cooperate. Everyone who was available for interview and who was relevant was interviewed.

Really- what do you want? Rather than saying "NPR thinks it was politically motivated" (who knew you took NPR as gospel?), present some facts to support your argument. You are becoming more Tex-like by the day.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

What is the basis for you concluding that the report was politically motivated? It was approved by a vote of 14-0 (10 Republicans and 4 Democrats all voting yes). It began before she was named VP. It has always been scheduled for release prior to the election (originally, it was to be released at the end of October, so moving it up is more likely than not beneficial to Palin).

If it has become political, it is because Palin made it so. She and her husband initially indicated they would cooperate. They initially did cooperate. She was then nominated as VP, and all cooperation ceased. Instead, an army of attorneys from the McCain campaign flew to Alaska and tried to shut the investigation down. Palin and her husband were then subpoenaed, and they still refused to cooperate. Everyone who was available for interview and who was relevant was interviewed.

Really- what do you want? Rather than saying "NPR thinks it was politically motivated" (who knew you took NPR as gospel?), present some facts to support your argument. You are becoming more Tex-like by the day.

Zip it! Zip zip. Zip it.

[Ma'ake]

My favorite part of Palin's reign as governor is using her Yahoo email account to conduct state business, so as to avoid the Alaska public records law.

Yahoo? (I'd go with G-Mail, personally, so Google can suggest products related to the content of your message. You know, so if your message said "investigation" Google could suggest a local law firm. Geez...)

If Palin ever held the highest office, would we see an official Snowmobile Racing Association Month?

"Bush League"... well... actually, worse.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Zip it! Zip zip. Zip it.

That's what I thought.

[Tex]

How's this for conflicting messages...

A report has cleared Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin of ethics violations in the firing of her public safety commissioner.

Released Monday, the report says there is no probable cause to believe Palin or any other state official violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with the firing. The report was prepared by Timothy Petumenos, an independent counsel for the Alaska Personnel Board.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

The question isn't whether or not the trooper should have been fired, but whether or not Palin fired the trooper's boss for refusing to fire the trooper.

The panel concluded she had no motive to do so other than personal reasons, which is an abuse of power.

The investigation began before anyone would have guessed that Palin would be the VP nominee. The investigation was approved by a bipartisan panel consisting of 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats. The vote was unanimous. Palin and her favorite creationist supporter, SU, want to argue that this was all a politically-motivated act, but that just doesn't comport with the facts.

At least get your facts straight. he was removed from his position and offered another job within government. HE refused. He made himself unemployed.