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MikeWaters · 08-08-2015, 03:36 AM

Church PR: we didn't go "rogue"

http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/fait...mon-pr-boss-we

I believe that. This statement was fully endorsed, and perhaps even scripted, by an apostle.

Archaea · 08-10-2015, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Church PR: we didn't go "rogue"

http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/fait...mon-pr-boss-we

I believe that. This statement was fully endorsed, and perhaps even scripted, by an apostle.

The response to BSA and gay scout leaders is utterly stupid, short-sighted and without inspiration. I cannot understand the mindset.

There won't be gay leaders molesting boys in LDS troops. What buffoons.

MikeWaters · 08-10-2015, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Church PR: we didn't go "rogue"

http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/fait...mon-pr-boss-we

I believe that. This statement was fully endorsed, and perhaps even scripted, by an apostle.

Quote:

There is "momentum inside the church organization" on women's issues and to address inequities. The Priesthood Executive Committee has six women on it. The "Brethren try to embrace women's voices." To that end, the Public Affairs Department created a "women's outreach group" with about eight "highly professional, faithful, seasoned women."

Well, if you have been saying that you support increasing the influence of women in the church, apparently some in the leadership of the church feel the same way.

MikeWaters · 08-10-2015, 05:07 PM

Here's Otterson's full remarks.

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/articl...mon-conference

MikeWaters · 08-24-2015, 09:47 PM

I'm wondering if Mormonism will shrink back the hills and mountains from whence it came, choosing a path like that of the Amish. Perhaps not literally walking away from the rest of society, but figuratively and spiritually. Retreating to our ward houses and stake centers and our administrative meetings and councils.

But that would be a course correction. A change in strategy.

The emphasis on Sunday worship represents, I think, a concern that Mormons are becoming too secular, too worldly. It's a tough line to draw.

I attended an activity on Sunday morning before church. And I was able to tell my friends that I had to split so that I could be at church. Maybe that leads to a conversation. Maybe that leads to new friends somewhere down the line. And it may be that me showing up on Sunday morning leads to a lot of social change (it's led to my work possibly wanting to join in--too long to explain).

What's in the world, and what's not? Do I go to the bar with my softball team? Had several conversations about Mormonism in that bar that would never have otherwise happened.

We may go back to the hills, but there's a world with problems here that needs our help.

MikeWaters · 08-26-2015, 04:39 PM

Church says it will remain in scouting.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...t-program.html

I need to look at the actual PR if it's available to see how strong it is. The BSA-LDS relationship was seriously damaged by that PR and if this new PR is lukewarm that will continue the slide of scouting in the church.

08-08-2015, 03:36 AM	#21
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Church PR: we didn't go "rogue" http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/fait...mon-pr-boss-we I believe that. This statement was fully endorsed, and perhaps even scripted, by an apostle.

08-10-2015, 05:07 PM	#24
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Here's Otterson's full remarks. http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/articl...mon-conference

08-24-2015, 09:47 PM	#25
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I'm wondering if Mormonism will shrink back the hills and mountains from whence it came, choosing a path like that of the Amish. Perhaps not literally walking away from the rest of society, but figuratively and spiritually. Retreating to our ward houses and stake centers and our administrative meetings and councils. But that would be a course correction. A change in strategy. The emphasis on Sunday worship represents, I think, a concern that Mormons are becoming too secular, too worldly. It's a tough line to draw. I attended an activity on Sunday morning before church. And I was able to tell my friends that I had to split so that I could be at church. Maybe that leads to a conversation. Maybe that leads to new friends somewhere down the line. And it may be that me showing up on Sunday morning leads to a lot of social change (it's led to my work possibly wanting to join in--too long to explain). What's in the world, and what's not? Do I go to the bar with my softball team? Had several conversations about Mormonism in that bar that would never have otherwise happened. We may go back to the hills, but there's a world with problems here that needs our help.

08-26-2015, 04:39 PM	#26
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Church says it will remain in scouting. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...t-program.html I need to look at the actual PR if it's available to see how strong it is. The BSA-LDS relationship was seriously damaged by that PR and if this new PR is lukewarm that will continue the slide of scouting in the church.