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Old 01-25-2008, 03:57 PM   #11
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Died of a heart attack on a trip to Israel.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:03 PM   #12
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Died of a heart attack on a trip to Israel.
Sad. I remember him speaking at BYU and using the BofM to make the case for the Dem Party. Kind of a Quixotic figure. I was humming The Impossible Dream as I left the hall.
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I'm curious. For those of you Romney supporters, does it bother you that he evades the questions on how much of his personal wealth he's investing in the campaign? Many voters have concerns about the notion that a candidate could effectively buy the presidency. (Which is not to imply that it hasn't been attempted before.)

My favorite line of the debate was from Huckabee:
"Just because we didn't find the WMD doesn't mean they weren't there."

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I'm curious. For those of you Romney supporters, does it bother you that he evades the questions on how much of his personal wealth he's investing in the campaign? Many voters have concerns about the notion that a candidate could effectively buy the presidency. (Which is not to imply that it hasn't been attempted before.)
No. Should it bother us?
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I'm curious. For those of you Romney supporters, does it bother you that he evades the questions on how much of his personal wealth he's investing in the campaign? Many voters have concerns about the notion that a candidate could effectively buy the presidency. (Which is not to imply that it hasn't been attempted before.)

My favorite line of the debate was from Huckabee:
"Just because we didn't find the WMD doesn't mean they weren't there."

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Yes it bothers me. It also bothers me when politicians take money and end up owing favors. Everything about politics bothers me. I'm for Romney because he's Mormon, and I like seeing a Mormon in the spotlight. I'm willing to admit it.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:51 PM   #16
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I'm curious. For those of you Romney supporters, does it bother you that he evades the questions on how much of his personal wealth he's investing in the campaign? Many voters have concerns about the notion that a candidate could effectively buy the presidency. (Which is not to imply that it hasn't been attempted before.)

My favorite line of the debate was from Huckabee:
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Good question, but I suspect most people don't mind that someone uses his/her own money to finance a campaign. Otherwise, from whence will the money come? Private funds that have ties to the donations? Or worse, public funds?
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I think Barbara's entire perspective on this election is colored by her loathing for Huckabee. I almost sense she come to hate McCain becasue she thinks Huckabee's campaign has benefited him.
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No. Should it bother us?
I can't answer that. But it always bothers me when my candidate/s fail/s to answer a tough question effectively.

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Good question, but I suspect most people don't mind that someone uses his/her own money to finance a campaign.
I don't know. Exit polls in NH had voters overwhelmingly (nearly 3x as many listed Mitt as listed the next highest candidate) choosing Mitt as the one running an "unfair" campaign. I had assumed that response was tied to his ability to buy as much exposure as he wants to get the win. I'll be interested to see the spending breakdown in Florida.
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I don't know. Exit polls in NH had voters overwhelmingly (nearly 3x as many listed Mitt as listed the next highest candidate) choosing Mitt as the one running an "unfair" campaign. I had assumed that response was tied to his ability to buy as much exposure as he wants to get the win. I'll be interested to see the spending breakdown in Florida.
I thought that had more to do with the effectiveness of McCain and Huckabee in portraying Mitt's "comparison" ads as dirty tactics.

McCain and Huckabee irritate me on this funding point. They're very jealous communists. Amazing, we Americans hating people because they are successful.

Hard Ball mentioned the question about Mitt's money and came to the conclusion that while it bothers the competitors and some press, most people really don't care and might actually prefer it since it is clean, private money.
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I'm curious. For those of you Romney supporters, does it bother you that he evades the questions on how much of his personal wealth he's investing in the campaign? Many voters have concerns about the notion that a candidate could effectively buy the presidency. (Which is not to imply that it hasn't been attempted before.)

My favorite line of the debate was from Huckabee:
"Just because we didn't find the WMD doesn't mean they weren't there."

brilliant.
Money has ruined politics, but it has always been there. I hate the thought of only rich men being able to win the presidency, but then again, do I want a poor man like Bill Clinton who will take money from anyone (ChiComs) and be more than happy to repay?

It's just an ugly business. The only thing I can do is try to take money out of the equation as best I can and look at the candidates character and positions on the issues. To me, Mitt seems the beest of the remaining field. And yes, the thought of a Mormon president has me pretty excited. We're tired of only controlling one measly little state.
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