I'm with Waters on this point

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

That was my analogy's point. Nothing tricky about this pitch. He just didn't want to go against the Republican administration. So he stood and looked at the ball fly over the plate. He blew it.

I'm just giving you a hard time, SU.

I agree that McCain bailed when he saw the fastball coming. He should stick to coach pitch.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

You seem to be suggesting that all fastballs are strikes.

have you ever considered that maybe McCain is a patient batter? This last fastball could have easily just missed one of the corners. Maybe McCain is waiting to get ahead in the count....that way, the Dems will HAVE to give him something to hit. I guess they could also walk him, but it would largely depend on who bats after McCain, also which inning, the score, and how many people are on base.

No. McCain is the last batter. His team is down, and this pitcher is only throwing strikes. He needs to hit the ball or his team loses. He got a gift and stood and watched it. That's the analogy.

The outlook wasn't brilliant for the Mudville nine that day;
The score stood four to two, with but one inning more to play,
And then when Cooney died at first, and Barrows did the same,
A pall-like silence fell upon the patrons of the game.

A straggling few got up to go in deep despair. The rest
Clung to that hope which springs eternal in the human breast;
They thought, "If only Casey could but get a whack at that —
We'd put up even money now, with Casey at the bat."

But Flynn preceded Casey, as did also Jimmy Blake,
And the former was a hoodoo, while the latter was a cake;
So upon that stricken multitude grim melancholy sat;
For there seemed but little chance of Casey getting to the bat.

But Flynn let drive a single, to the wonderment of all,
And Blake, the much despised, tore the cover off the ball;
And when the dust had lifted, and men saw what had occurred,
There was Jimmy safe at second and Flynn a-hugging third.

Then from five thousand throats and more there rose a lusty yell;
It rumbled through the valley, it rattled in the dell;
It pounded on the mountain and recoiled upon the flat,
For Casey, mighty Casey, was advancing to the bat.

There was ease in Casey's manner as he stepped into his place;
There was pride in Casey's bearing and a smile lit Casey's face.
And when, responding to the cheers, he lightly doffed his hat,
No stranger in the crowd could doubt 'twas Casey at the bat.

Ten thousand eyes were on him as he rubbed his hands with dirt.
Five thousand tongues applauded when he wiped them on his shirt.
Then while the writhing pitcher ground the ball into his hip,
Defiance flashed in Casey's eye, a sneer curled Casey's lip.

And now the leather-covered sphere came hurtling through the air,
And Casey stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there.
Close by the sturdy batsman the ball unheeded sped —
"That ain't my style," said Casey. "Strike one!" the umpire said.

From the benches, black with people, there went up a muffled roar,
Like the beating of the storm-waves on a stern and distant shore;
"Kill him! Kill the umpire!" shouted some one on the stand;
And it's likely they'd have killed him had not Casey raised his hand.

With a smile of Christian charity great Casey's visage shone;
He stilled the rising tumult; he bade the game go on;
He signaled to the pitcher, and once more the dun sphere flew;
But Casey still ignored it, and the umpire said "Strike two!"

"Fraud!" cried the maddened thousands, and echo answered "Fraud!"
But one scornful look from Casey and the audience was awed.
They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that Casey wouldn't let that ball go by again.

The sneer has fled from Casey's lip, the teeth are clenched in hate;
He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate.
And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
And now the air is shattered by the force of Casey's blow.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright,
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and little children shout;
But there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

No. McCain is the last batter. His team is down, and this pitcher is only throwing strikes. He needs to hit the ball or his team loses. He got a gift and stood and watched it. That's the analogy.

I still don't get it. There is no such thing as the "last batter" in baseball until after the game is over. How do you know McCain is the last batter? If he gets on base then someone else will get a chance at the plate.

Also, why does McCain have to swing? How many men are on base? What is the score? I would assume that McCain could very well sit and try to get walked, just to get a rally going.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I still don't get it. There is no such thing as the "last batter" in baseball until after the game is over. How do you know McCain is the last batter? If he gets on base then someone else will get a chance at the plate.

Bottom of the ninth, two outs. Home team down a run. Bases loaded.

= Last batter.

Not sure how well it applies, but there you go.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Bottom of the ninth, two outs. Home team down a run. Bases loaded.

= Last batter.

Not sure how well it applies, but there you go.

As Delbert Grady said to Jack Torrance in the men's restroom of the Overlook...."I am sorry to differ with you, sir..."

Under your scenario, McCain could still get the walk, walk in 1 run to tie it up, and there would still be one more batter....or even more depending on extra innings. So there is no way of knowing whether McCain is the last batter.

[Coach McGuirk]

I think this was more like a heater, high and inside. The team wanted him to stand in the way and take the base, but he ducked and took the ball. Then his stomach started to bleed and he broke his special bat, the wounded boy. Luckily his bat boy has a second bat, the Palin special. Hopefully he hits the lights next time, unfortunately I think it's lights out for him.

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Bottom of the ninth, two outs. Home team down a run. Bases loaded.

= Last batter.

Not sure how well it applies, but there you go.

I'm no baseball expert, but couldn't there still be one more batter? Batter gets walked or hits in exactly one run. Ties the game. Still one more batter. No?

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

I'm no baseball expert, but couldn't there still be one more batter? Batter gets walked or hits in exactly one run. Ties the game. Still one more batter. No?

Sure, he could get walked. Tough to drive in just one run though.

That's all of the thought I would like to put into this subject. Nope, that's more than the thought I wanted to put into this.

Move on.