On the VP debate ....

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Tex

In other words, it doesn't tell us anything but what people in the hall thought. Big deal.

As opposed to calling people sitting at home on their couches?

oooh, Tex, you need to get with Joo SixPack and the hockey moms to really knoo what thay're thinkin', dont'cha knoo?

[Coach McGuirk]

I am voting none of the above and hoping Monty Brewster comes to take office. I dont know about his politics but it has to be better than my current choices. Plus he throws one hell of a party.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Tex

Curious: how does one do a "random" poll of voters when the debate finished at 10:30 PM EDT? Are they seriously polling people at 11 o'clock at night?

Online. Telephone for market research is so 1970s. These people were recruited before to watch and answer questions about the debate. Knowledge Networks is one of my company's clients. They're legit. This is just the CBS poll. I didn't look up the others, but I assume the methodology was similar.

This CBS News poll was conducted online by Knowledge Networks among a nationwide random sample of 473 uncommitted voters - voters who don’t yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still change their minds - who have agreed to watch the debate. Knowledge Networks, a market and public policy research firm based in Menlo Park, CA, conducted the web poll among a sample of adult members of its panel, who are provided web access if they don't already have it. More technical information is available at http://www.knowledgenetworks.com/gan...ewer-info.html.

This is a scientifically representative poll of uncommitted voters’ reaction to the presidential debate. The margin of sampling error could be plus or minus 5 percentage points for results based on the entire sample.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BlueK

Online. Telephone for market research is so 1970s. These people were recruited before to watch and answer questions about the debate. Knowledge Networks is one of my company's clients. They're legit. This is just the CBS poll. I didn't look up the others, but I assume the methodology was similar.

This CBS News poll was conducted online by Knowledge Networks among a nationwide random sample of 473 uncommitted voters - voters who don’t yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still change their minds - who have agreed to watch the debate. Knowledge Networks, a market and public policy research firm based in Menlo Park, CA, conducted the web poll among a sample of adult members of its panel, who are provided web access if they don't already have it. More technical information is available at http://www.knowledgenetworks.com/gan...ewer-info.html.

This is a scientifically representative poll of uncommitted voters’ reaction to the presidential debate. The margin of sampling error could be plus or minus 5 percentage points for results based on the entire sample.

Wonderful. I love these kinds of polls ... sampling all the spaghetti-spined folks in America who wait until election day to make up their minds.

I do believe that two of the more respected polls in the industry--Gallup and Rasmussen--still use the phone.

Interesting, in any case, thanks. A better response than Triplet's Bar n' Grill, that's for sure.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Tex

Wonderful. I love these kinds of polls ... sampling all the spaghetti-spined folks in America who wait until election day to make up their minds.

I do believe that two of the more respected polls in the industry--Gallup and Rasmussen--still use the phone.

Interesting, in any case, thanks. A better response than Triplet's Bar n' Grill, that's for sure.

Tex, you are mean.

You need to work on your renewed mind.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Tex

Wonderful. I love these kinds of polls ... sampling all the spaghetti-spined folks in America who wait until election day to make up their minds.

I do believe that two of the more respected polls in the industry--Gallup and Rasmussen--still use the phone.

Interesting, in any case, thanks. A better response than Triplet's Bar n' Grill, that's for sure.

Every methodology has strengths and weaknesses. Phone has a lot of problems. It's just that it used to be the only cost effective way to do a large sampling. Those who insist it's better are no different than those in the 50s who insisted door to door was better. It's just different.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Tex, you are mean.

You need to work on your renewed mind.

I'm cleansing your temple.

Originally Posted by BlueK

Every methodology has strengths and weaknesses. Phone has a lot of problems. It's just that it used to be the only cost effective way to do a large sampling. Those who insist it's better are no different than those in the 50s who insisted door to door was better. It's just different.

I'm not criticizing ... just saying that the "so 1970s" method still seems to work reasonably well.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

Wonderful. I love these kinds of polls ... sampling all the spaghetti-spined folks in America who wait until election day to make up their minds.

Yes, damn that middle. The real thinking occurs at the fringes.

On the way to work this morning I was listening to the political experts saying how the main target audience for the debates is the independents. I would think a poll based on the undecided is the most significant kind of poll. Palin could offer her baby as a human sacrifice and you would probably commend her for fighting overpopulation.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm cleansing your temple.

Pervert.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm cleansing your temple.



I'm not criticizing ... just saying that the "so 1970s" method still seems to work reasonably well.

it will go the way of door to door sampling within the next 5 years, IMO. The only thing keeping that from happening already is that the online panels have not grown enough yet to cover all the demand out there. Phone sampling is getting less and less cost effective and reliable as the response rate has gone in the toilet the last several years. People just don't trust people who call on the phone to ask questions. The telemarketing industry has really hurt it.