Pirates don't usually kill

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I want some transparency and honesty, not the bullshit lies we are being fed.

Come on, Waters. This was a political problem. Are you really surprised at political answers?

The US is wrapping up an asymmetrical war in Iraq. We are expanding the scope of the asymmetrical war in Afghanistan. Do you really think politicians are jumping up and down at the prospect of beginning a new asymmetrical war on the seas against pirates that can't possibly be "won"?

No chance. This is being portrayed in the only way it possibly can be portrayed, politically. "We didn't provoke anyone, we acted purely in self-defense, we acted only when there was an imminent threat, but we really didn't want to." Perhaps that is also true, but it is most certainly political.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Come on, Waters. This was a political problem. Are you really surprised at political answers?

The US is wrapping up an asymmetrical war in Iraq. We are expanding the scope of the asymmetrical war in Afghanistan. Do you really think politicians are jumping up and down at the prospect of beginning a new asymmetrical war on the seas against pirates that can't possibly be "won"?

No chance. This is being portrayed in the only way it possibly can be portrayed, politically. "We didn't provoke anyone, we acted purely in self-defense, we acted only when there was an imminent threat, but we really didn't want to." Perhaps that is also true, but it is most certainly political.

why does the supposedly independent media have to participate in the lies and charade, which both you and I immediately recognize? (which tooblue doesn't of course).

Sick of Pravda.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why does the supposedly independent media have to participate in the lies and charade, which both you and I immediately recognize? (which tooblue doesn't of course).

Sick of Pravda.

The media, by and large, is a joke right now, focused far more on catering to advertisers and their base of viewership than they are in the truth. While there are a handful of exceptions to this (IMO, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow- slanted, yes, but interested in the truth, Chris Wallace, even Shephard Smith, to an extent), they are few and far between. Glenn Beck (i.e., Tex), Olbermann, Hannity, etc. are becoming the rule, not the exception. It is a shame.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

The media, by and large, is a joke right now, focused far more on catering to advertisers and their base of viewership than they are in the truth. While there are a handful of exceptions to this (IMO, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow- slanted, yes, but interested in the truth, Chris Wallace, even Shephard Smith, to an extent), they are few and far between. Glenn Beck (i.e., Tex), Olbermann, Hannity, etc. are becoming the rule, not the exception. It is a shame.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1491344

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Come on, Waters. This was a political problem. Are you really surprised at political answers?

Obama is NOT playing politics. Let's just make that clear.

White House spokesman Nick Shapiro:

"The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned.

Except when they are dangerous right-wing radicals.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cals-on-right/

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Tex

Obama is NOT playing politics. Let's just make that clear.

White House spokesman Nick Shapiro:



Except when they are dangerous right-wing radicals.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cals-on-right/

No surprise here, as it's only bad if the right does it.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

Obama is NOT playing politics. Let's just make that clear.

White House spokesman Nick Shapiro:



Except when they are dangerous right-wing radicals.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cals-on-right/

Are you opposed to the government monitoring dangerous right wing radicals? These are the same nutjobs who blew up the buildings in Oklahoma City.

[BlueHair]

The bad guys got killed. I don't see what the issue is. To me, it's like the swat team killing a guy that breaks into your house and holds you hostage. If you don't want to die, don't take people hostage. Negotiating is stupid. Just kill the bastards. Paying ransom is for pussies.