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Old 02-09-2009, 09:34 PM   #11
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A lot of people in this country were disgusted with Clinton and pardons-gate when Bush took over, so that probably contributed to feeling good about the changeover.
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Honestly, I'm not sure who is more in charge of this country--Obama or Nancy Pelosi.

I think Pelosi is working quickly towards becoming the name and face that the GOP uses to rally the troops (the same role that Gingrich came to play for the democrats).
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It's an amusing irony that Bush had similar numbers to Obama, considering the very different circumstances under which they took office.

Drawing a direct comparison between the completed presidency of Bush and the infant presidency of Obama is for the pea-brained. Not surprised Cali would go there, but I'm a little disappointed in AA.
Dude, YOU made the comparison. I mocked it.
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I'm a little disappointed in AA.
AA was obviously being sarcastic. Sorry it didn't fit the narrative you'd prefer.
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Dude, YOU made the comparison. I mocked it.
No, I simply showed how their numbers at this phase of their presidencies were similar. You extended it to the absurd, "Dude".
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AA was obviously being sarcastic.
No, really?
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No, I simply showed how their numbers at this phase of their presidencies were similar.
In other words, you showing the similarities of the infant presidency of Obama and the presidency of Bush, to which you referred in the completed sense (unless he had already earned the title "Most Divisive and Worst President in American History" by February 2001).

Making, as it were, a "direct comparison."
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In other words, you showing the similarities of the infant presidency of Obama and the presidency of Bush, to which you referred in the completed sense (unless he had already earned the title "Most Divisive and Worst President in American History" by February 2001).

Making, as it were, a "direct comparison."
If a little dramatic hyperbole was enough to make you entirely miss the forest for the trees, then I do deeply regret the misunderstanding. That you would zero in on that--ignoring the plainly presented other data which is clearly a comparison of their first weeks--is a little perplexing. Surely a person as intelligent as yourself can see the actual comparison I was making. Heck, even Mike Waters got it.
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If a little dramatic hyperbole was enough to make you entirely miss the forest for the trees, then I do deeply regret the misunderstanding. That you would zero in on that--ignoring the plainly presented other data which is clearly a comparison of their first weeks--is a little perplexing. Surely a person as intelligent as yourself can see the actual comparison I was making. Heck, even Mike Waters got it.
I doubt very much that you deeply regret the misunderstanding. As for the point itself, it seems to me you had no point. In fact, I notice that you often go to great lengths to avoid actually making a point. It's part of your charm.

You treat the supplied pieces of evidence as though they suggest a self-evident thought: that Americans are becoming disillusioned now that they are seeing the Obama machine in action. Another person (myself among them) may look at those numbers and hear another message: that the numbers tell us absolutely nothing this early in the game. As long as evidence can have such diverse interpretations, you are not absolved of your responsibility of stating your thesis.

Unless, of course, you don't really care if anybody follows your train of thought. If that happens to be the case, however, one must wonder why you're still talking. I doubt you believe you will win anybody over this late in the game; likely, you just like hearing the sound of your own voice. Either way, I'll not apologize for your insufficient command of written English.
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I doubt very much that you deeply regret the misunderstanding. As for the point itself, it seems to me you had no point. In fact, I notice that you often go to great lengths to avoid actually making a point. It's part of your charm.

You treat the supplied pieces of evidence as though they suggest a self-evident thought: that Americans are becoming disillusioned now that they are seeing the Obama machine in action. Another person (myself among them) may look at those numbers and hear another message: that the numbers tell us absolutely nothing this early in the game. As long as evidence can have such diverse interpretations, you are not absolved of your responsibility of stating your thesis.

Unless, of course, you don't really care if anybody follows your train of thought. If that happens to be the case, however, one must wonder why you're still talking. I doubt you believe you will win anybody over this late in the game; likely, you just like hearing the sound of your own voice. Either way, I'll not apologize for your insufficient command of written English.
Thanks. I'll try to state my "thesis" more clearly, maybe with footnotes. (This is still an Internet message board, right? Someone check for me.)

In any case, I'm genuinely sorry to have gotten you all riled up, so I apologize to you for the pea-brained comment. (Cali still has a pea-brain though). You and I had no beef before, and I really don't need any new adversaries. Not that there are many left around anymore.

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