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BYU71 · 09-13-2007, 08:07 PM

Young lady in your ward at age 17 has intercourse. She repents and does all the things necessary to receive forgiveness.

At age 22 she has fallen in love with a very charming young man. However, his P blessing says someday he will be amongst the leaders of the church and sit in council with them. He doesn't want anything coming out of the wordwork when that day arises.

He shows the fiance's Bishop the P Blessing and asks, Bishop has my fiance ever confessed having pre-marital sex. What do you tell the young man.

nikuman · 09-13-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Young lady in your ward at age 17 has intercourse. She repents and does all the things necessary to receive forgiveness.

At age 22 she has fallen in love with a very charming young man. However, his P blessing says someday he will be amongst the leaders of the church and sit in council with them. He doesn't want anything coming out of the wordwork when that day arises.

He shows the fiance's Bishop the P Blessing and asks, Bishop has my fiance ever confessed having pre-marital sex. What do you tell the young man.

Not claiming to be the bishop type, but my answer is as follows: ask her. It's a conversation I can't have as bishop for a number of reasons, mostly because it's a breach of confidentiality obligations I'd feel I have, and also because that sort of thing would have a chilling effect on the openness of others who come to talk to me if word got out that I told. And if the young lady in question was not willing to tell the young man, chances are she's the sort who would be eternally pissed at me for telling.

MikeWaters · 09-13-2007, 08:22 PM

I would refuse to say a thing, and then immediately call her and say "your fiance is asking if you have ever confessed sexual sin to me. Thought you might like to know. Being married to a mullah is not all that btw."

RC Vikings · 09-13-2007, 08:24 PM

I would tell him that if he was so petty to worry about something like that then he probably wouldn't be called to one of those positions anyway.

I'm sorry I probably shouldn't have answered this question since you directed it to potential bishops only.

MikeWaters · 09-13-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RC Vikings

I would tell him that if he was so petty to worry about something like that then he probably wouldn't be called to one of those positions anyway.

I'm sorry I probably shouldn't have answered this question since you directed it to potential bishops only.

was that code for "what is your opinion Tex, Indy, and Lingo?"

Oops. I should have stayed out.

jay santos · 09-13-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Young lady in your ward at age 17 has intercourse. She repents and does all the things necessary to receive forgiveness.

At age 22 she has fallen in love with a very charming young man. However, his P blessing says someday he will be amongst the leaders of the church and sit in council with them. He doesn't want anything coming out of the wordwork when that day arises.

He shows the fiance's Bishop the P Blessing and asks, Bishop has my fiance ever confessed having pre-marital sex. What do you tell the young man.

Hilarious, 71. I love your disdain for this kind of stuff. But I sometimes wonder if you have too much energy for an element of society that may not actually exist in the real world. Only in the fantasy of anti-Mormon/anti-BYU types.

ute4ever · 09-13-2007, 08:31 PM

God remembers the sin no more. Sounds like that G12-wannabe is holding his fiancee to a higher standard than God.

Alma the Younger sat in the counsels of the church.

Ask him what his thoughts are on the idea that Jesus married the reformed hooker Mary Magdalene.

myboynoah · 09-13-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

God remembers the sin no more. Sounds like that G12-wannabe is holding his fiancee to a higher standard than God.

Alma the Younger sat in the counsels of the church.

Ask him what his thoughts are on the idea that Jesus married the reformed hooker Mary Magdalene.

Don't bring up scripture stories; we're talking real life stuff here.

BigFatMeanie · 09-13-2007, 08:41 PM

Were I the Bishop:

I would tell the man that the question in and of itself is inappropriate.

I agree with the prior thoughts along the line of "If he is that concerned about it then he likely isn't GA material anyway" but if I were the Bishop I wouldn't express said thought.

Tex · 09-13-2007, 08:46 PM

There's a lot of potential bishops in here. Not me.

09-13-2007, 08:07 PM	#1
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	OK you potential Bishops out there Young lady in your ward at age 17 has intercourse. She repents and does all the things necessary to receive forgiveness. At age 22 she has fallen in love with a very charming young man. However, his P blessing says someday he will be amongst the leaders of the church and sit in council with them. He doesn't want anything coming out of the wordwork when that day arises. He shows the fiance's Bishop the P Blessing and asks, Bishop has my fiance ever confessed having pre-marital sex. What do you tell the young man.

09-13-2007, 08:24 PM	#4
RC Vikings Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rexburg, Idaho Posts: 2,236	I would tell him that if he was so petty to worry about something like that then he probably wouldn't be called to one of those positions anyway. I'm sorry I probably shouldn't have answered this question since you directed it to potential bishops only. Last edited by RC Vikings; 09-13-2007 at 08:26 PM.

09-13-2007, 08:41 PM	#9
BigFatMeanie Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Jordan Posts: 1,725	Were I the Bishop: I would tell the man that the question in and of itself is inappropriate. I agree with the prior thoughts along the line of "If he is that concerned about it then he likely isn't GA material anyway" but if I were the Bishop I wouldn't express said thought. Last edited by BigFatMeanie; 09-13-2007 at 08:41 PM. Reason: typpo

09-13-2007, 08:46 PM	#10
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	There's a lot of potential bishops in here. Not me. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young Last edited by Tex; 09-13-2007 at 08:49 PM.

09-13-2007, 08:22 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I would refuse to say a thing, and then immediately call her and say "your fiance is asking if you have ever confessed sexual sin to me. Thought you might like to know. Being married to a mullah is not all that btw."

09-13-2007, 08:31 PM	#7
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	God remembers the sin no more. Sounds like that G12-wannabe is holding his fiancee to a higher standard than God. Alma the Younger sat in the counsels of the church. Ask him what his thoughts are on the idea that Jesus married the reformed hooker Mary Magdalene.