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Old 07-19-2014, 09:51 AM   #31
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I would have a show of force. I would bring in a carrier. I would announce weapons support for Ukraine. In addition to the sanctions.

I would not try to convey that I am a pussy. Obama conveying that puts us all in danger.
As someone who spent her entire adolescence in war and is living in a region carpeted with instability and bathed with violence, I would say, yeah go for it. Show some theeth. Your people would love it.
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:19 AM   #32
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Mindful agrees with you.
I think I agree with Eric Zuesse.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/...er-downed.html
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:25 PM   #33
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As someone who spent her entire adolescence in war and is living in a region carpeted with instability and bathed with violence, I would say, yeah go for it. Show some theeth. Your people would love it.
This is not about the hearts of the people, but the minds of the tyrants. Dealing with tyrants requires a different mentality than dealing with the masses. The masses want fairness and humane treatment.

A tyrant with a Napoleonic syndrome does not.
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:29 PM   #34
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Putin's strength has grown because Russians are happier with their lives and their economy is better.

He had generated a tremendous propaganda machine.

I don't think Obama could have significantly affected either of these two major factors.
I disagree that Russians have a strong economy. Russians may be happier with a strongman telling them their lives are better.

Here are some recent evaluations of the Russian economy.
http://www.economist.com/topics/russian-economy

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russ...2F%3B565%3B420


http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/russia/overview

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-econo...t-help-1633198
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I disagree that Russians have a strong economy. Russians may be happier with a strongman telling them their lives are better.

Here are some recent evaluations of the Russian economy.
http://www.economist.com/topics/russian-economy

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russ...2F%3B565%3B420


http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/russia/overview

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-econo...t-help-1633198
The Russian economy today is infinitely better than it was 15 years ago.

The effect of this is to make Putin wildly popular.
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:55 AM   #37
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The Russian economy today is infinitely better than it was 15 years ago.

The effect of this is to make Putin wildly popular.
The primary reason for any improvement is linked to exploitation of natural resources. However, the average Russian is not better off, just siloviki and oligarchs.
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The primary reason for any improvement is linked to exploitation of natural resources. However, the average Russian is not better off, just siloviki and oligarchs.
I agree about natural resources.

You're wrong about people not being better off. The average Russian is much better off. They all have cell phones. Most have computers. Many more have cars.

I lived there for two years in the 90s and was there again last year (in several cities).

Average salary was 40 dollars per month or so in the 90s. Now people make a thousand per month--at least. And their money goes reasonably far.

It's obviously no where near the western world, but it is much, much better than it was.
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I disagree that Russians have a strong economy. Russians may be happier with a strongman telling them their lives are better.

Here are some recent evaluations of the Russian economy.
http://www.economist.com/topics/russian-economy

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russ...2F%3B565%3B420


http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/russia/overview

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-econo...t-help-1633198
I wonder how much American resources are Being sucked by Russians. They are Russian models every where!!
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i wonder how much american resources are being sucked by russians. They are russian models every where!!
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