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Old 11-12-2008, 04:28 PM   #1
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Default Prop 8 reaction morphs into persecution

It's fascinating to see how the backlash against LDS involvement in Prop 8 has become interpreted as anti-LDS persecution.

In Utah we have the issue of LDS ward houses getting windows shot at with a BB or pellet gun, which I suspect is the work of teenage idiots. Some folks are attributing the attacks to opposition to LDS moral integrity on Prop 8, a likely extension being something along the lines of Satan lashing out at Mormons in the pre-Apocalypse.

Craziness.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:31 PM   #2
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we had a large rock thrown through a glass door in my stake center several years back. Presumably had nothing to do with Prop 8.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:38 PM   #3
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In that case, here's some real persecution for ya.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/a...WS01/811120369

http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sa...l?jst=pn_pn_lk
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:04 PM   #4
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Default Not a laughing matter

Hey, is there any subject not made light of on this board?

I too think the church windows being shot out in Utah is the work of teenage idiots. But there is some very serious stuff being done in California right now to people who gave as little as $100 in support of Prop 8. It ain't funny, Mike.
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Hey, is there any subject not made light of on this board?

I too think the church windows being shot out in Utah is the work of teeange idiots. But there is some very serious stuff being done in California right now to people who gave as little as $100 in support of Prop 8. It ain't funny, Mike.
I think it is weird how people are now tossing around the term "persecution."

ask matthew shepard how he feels about the persecution of those who had their acura spray painted.

wait...you can't ask him anymore.
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I think it is weird how people are now tossing around the term "persecution."

ask matthew shepard how he feels about the persecution of those who had their acura spray painted.

wait...you can't ask him anymore.
That's a fair point; however, are there really varying degrees of persecution?
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That's a fair point; however, are there really varying degrees of persecution?
Sure, but I think currently people on both sides are tossing it out for the sake of drama.

I think I mentioned here that a couple of months back, some woman in our ward came to our house and was talking about stuff. we got into a heated discussion about the whole issue.

It turns out afterwards that she told my wife that she felt persecuted for her beliefs. lol. my wife told her to lighten up. But then I came downstairs and got pissed at my wife for talking on the phone without my permission.
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Sure, but I think currently people on both sides are tossing it out for the sake of drama.

I think I mentioned here that a couple of months back, some woman in our ward came to our house and was talking about stuff. we got into a heated discussion about the whole issue.

It turns out afterwards that she told my wife that she felt persecuted for her beliefs. lol. my wife told her to lighten up. But then I came downstairs and got pissed at my wife for talking on the phone without my permission.
I agree that both sides are taking advantage of the situation, though I believe that persecution is persecution. Matthew Sheppard's situation went beyond persecution.

If my wife didn't talk on the phone, there would be no reason to have one at my house, but I understand what you're saying: the only correct location for my Brooks Robinson autographed baseballs is on the mantle in the living room and my wife refuses to abide by that.

That reminds me. I need to install the motion sensors and alarm on the mantle.
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I think it is weird how people are now tossing around the term "persecution."

ask matthew shepard how he feels about the persecution of those who had their acura spray painted.

wait...you can't ask him anymore.
I did not use that word. If you don't know what it feels like to receive a death threat, then shut up. Have a nice evening.
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I did not use that word. If you don't know what it feels like to receive a death threat, then shut up. Have a nice evening.
LA, I apologize for TripletDaddy. I hope you haven't had to endure such a thing. Take care.

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