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MikeWaters · 08-15-2005, 05:45 PM

I think Brigham Young once said that trousers that opened in the front were tools of the devil.

Sometimes things are products of their time, and are more policy than doctrine.

Archaea · 08-15-2005, 05:49 PM

any consensual sex with my spouse will do.

There appear to be many situational ethics arising out of customs of the time.

SoCalCoug · 08-16-2005, 01:51 AM

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I think Brigham Young once said that trousers that opened in the front were tools of the devil.

I think my wife often agrees with Brigham Young on that one. :cry:

Archaea · 08-16-2005, 02:01 AM

thing and have us on leashes.

My wife said to me the other day, "Do you know the difference between a man and a dog?"

"A dog doesn't beg for sex."

SteelBlue · 08-16-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think Brigham Young once said that trousers that opened in the front were tools of the devil.

Sometimes things are products of their time, and are more policy than doctrine.

I think that you are absolutely correct. We could probably think of many things that were once considered "wrong" and no longer are.

SeattleUte · 08-19-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think Brigham Young once said that trousers that opened in the front were tools of the devil.

Sometimes things are products of their time, and are more policy than doctrine.

Mike, very well put, and quite succinct. This is, of course, the all-purpose rationalization/defense that is always made.

But you can't ruin my fun. I'm still LMAO at the quote.

The quote, though admittedly outdated and out of step with the times, says a lot about insularity of Mormon culture. The early 1980's weren't that long ago. YPB.

tooblue · 08-19-2005, 11:27 PM

Ah, the old insulary argument. Birth into this religion is the vehicule upon which I have seen, lived and experienced greater cultrual diversity than millions of my American comrades of similar age and econimic status.

There is a difference between willful insulation based upon intimate knowledge vs. abject ignorance :wink:

ute4ever · 08-20-2005, 04:11 AM

I visit an LDS message board site where this topic recently came up, and someone posted an online copy of the 1982 letter; I dug it up:

http://www.lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml

However just a warning, if memory serves, there are links on that page that will take you to anti-mormon sites.

Archaea · 08-20-2005, 04:13 AM

so no need to read the other stuff

MikeWaters · 08-20-2005, 05:06 AM

It's less controversial that I originally thought. It more implies that if someone seems to be troubled by it, they ought not do it.....nowhere there does it say to ask about it.

08-15-2005, 05:49 PM	#12
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Let me clarify any consensual sex with my spouse will do. There appear to be many situational ethics arising out of customs of the time.

08-16-2005, 02:01 AM	#14
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	the older we get the more our wives take control of every- thing and have us on leashes. My wife said to me the other day, "Do you know the difference between a man and a dog?" "A dog doesn't beg for sex."

08-19-2005, 11:27 PM	#17
tooblue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,016	Ah the old insulary argument Ah, the old insulary argument. Birth into this religion is the vehicule upon which I have seen, lived and experienced greater cultrual diversity than millions of my American comrades of similar age and econimic status. There is a difference between willful insulation based upon intimate knowledge vs. abject ignorance :wink:

08-20-2005, 04:11 AM	#18
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	Here is the statement I visit an LDS message board site where this topic recently came up, and someone posted an online copy of the 1982 letter; I dug it up: http://www.lds-mormon.com/worthy_letter1.shtml However just a warning, if memory serves, there are links on that page that will take you to anti-mormon sites.

08-20-2005, 04:13 AM	#19
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	the letter is reprinted on the first page so no need to read the other stuff

08-15-2005, 05:45 PM	#11
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I think Brigham Young once said that trousers that opened in the front were tools of the devil. Sometimes things are products of their time, and are more policy than doctrine.

08-20-2005, 05:06 AM	#20
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	It's less controversial that I originally thought. It more implies that if someone seems to be troubled by it, they ought not do it.....nowhere there does it say to ask about it.