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Goatnapper'96 · 11-05-2008, 02:38 PM

My mother told me frequently of the night she cried when LBJ trounced Goldwater. She feared for the country because LBJ was such a socialist and whatnot. My parents were very typical right wing Benson mormons. They were members of the John Birch Society and really politically active with all the paranoia that the end was nigh and that a future fight with the godless Commies would usher in Gog versus Magog. You know what? Eventually, everything turned out ok. The Great Society created issues IMO and I happen to believe LBJ was as close to a demogogue as any President this country has had, but the underpinnings of the American way of life are fundamentally the US Constitution, a vibrant civil society that embraces capitalism and free speech, and legitimacy in America's political and financial institutions. America is amazingly strong. In fact this election demonstrates the American dream is still achievable. A man born as a poor black child just defeated an entrenched American elite.

Those of us whose side lost can whine about the "par" wanting to take our money or that everyone else is stupider than we are, but fundamentally I still believe the core pillars of the American way of life are still vitally strong. A black man has now elevated himself to President of the United States. Perhaps it might not be the black man I would have chosen, but for many Americans who have long struggled to totally grasp the legitimacy and faith many of us have in our embedded institutions, this will propel them a bit closer. I think that is a good thing. Perhaps Obama's policies might hinder our vibrant civil society, time will tell but similar to the Great Society the policies can be reversed and probably won't be as damaging as many of us are predicting. Further, Obama is inheriting a mess and with our devotion to free speech his every move will be scrutinized and compared to his promises of Camelot. I hope he and his cronies don't use racism as a shield for the criticism that is coming his way. Conservative talk radio got a shot in the arm like no other yesterday.

In the end I still believe in the American dream and while Obama wasn't my man, I am proud that the fundamental underpinnings of our way of life were exonerated. Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.

I think we also invented fake hooters in this country, that is pure genius innovation right there. We can survive another Great Society!

myboynoah · 11-05-2008, 03:23 PM

I actually heard Lee Greenwood singing in the background as I read that.

ERCougar · 11-05-2008, 03:27 PM

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I think we also invented fake hooters in this country, that is pure genius innovation right there. We can survive another Great Society!

Yup, first silicone-filled implants were developed in Houston, TX, 1962. Although wool and ox cartilage were tried in the early 20th century, surprisingly unsuccessfully.

landpoke · 11-05-2008, 03:28 PM

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I actually heard Lee Greenwood singing in the background as I read that.

God I hate that song.

Goatnapper'96 · 11-05-2008, 03:33 PM

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God I hate that song.

He came and sung that song of halftime of my first Army-Navy game in 1990. It was the eve of the first Gulf War and a group of middies unfurled a flag that covered the playing surface at Veteran's Stadium. It made my nipples hard and I just wanted a rifle and someone to point me in the right direction...LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT KILL!

landpoke · 11-05-2008, 03:37 PM

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He came and sung that song of halftime of my first Army-Navy game in 1990. It was the eve of the first Gulf War and a group of middies unfurled a flag that covered the playing surface at Veteran's Stadium. It made my nipples hard and I just wanted a rifle and someone to point me in the right direction...LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT KILL!

Don't get me wrong, around that time it sent shivers down my spine. It was the 10,987th time I heard it that it started to wear on me a bit.

Goatnapper'96 · 11-05-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCougar

Yup, first silicone-filled implants were developed in Houston, TX, 1962. Although wool and ox cartilage were tried in the early 20th century, surprisingly unsuccessfully.

Houston, we don't have a problem! Timeframe was close to the Great Society as well. See, even in America choosing evil over righteousness in 1964 and pushing my dear mother to tears the spirit of the Lord was inspiring good men to creations that brought women increased self esteem and men greater joy in marital relationships. Not to mention the economic boom the adult film industry enjoyed when oscillic motion became part of the package!

WE WILL SURVIVE!

ute4ever · 11-05-2008, 03:46 PM

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They were politically active with all the paranoia that the end was nigh and that a future fight with the godless Commies would usher in Gog versus Magog.

Would that be such a bad thing? That was in 1964. Think of what the world would be like now had it been true.....

Goatnapper'96 · 11-05-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

Would that be such a bad thing? That was in 1964. Think of what the world would be like now had it been true.....

I am not condemning my parents. They are wonderful people. It is just that hearing my mother talk about her opinions and unfounded fears leads me to be unpersuaded by those who get so worked up about the end being near because a socialistic Democrat is able to take advantage of the failures of the Republican party the past 8 years.

BarbaraGordon · 11-05-2008, 03:50 PM

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WE WILL SURVIVE!

There you go, landpoke. Gloria Gayner should round out your medley quite nicely.

11-05-2008, 02:38 PM	#1
Goatnapper'96 Recruiting Coordinator/Bosom Inspector Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,412	Why I am not too concerned My mother told me frequently of the night she cried when LBJ trounced Goldwater. She feared for the country because LBJ was such a socialist and whatnot. My parents were very typical right wing Benson mormons. They were members of the John Birch Society and really politically active with all the paranoia that the end was nigh and that a future fight with the godless Commies would usher in Gog versus Magog. You know what? Eventually, everything turned out ok. The Great Society created issues IMO and I happen to believe LBJ was as close to a demogogue as any President this country has had, but the underpinnings of the American way of life are fundamentally the US Constitution, a vibrant civil society that embraces capitalism and free speech, and legitimacy in America's political and financial institutions. America is amazingly strong. In fact this election demonstrates the American dream is still achievable. A man born as a poor black child just defeated an entrenched American elite. Those of us whose side lost can whine about the "par" wanting to take our money or that everyone else is stupider than we are, but fundamentally I still believe the core pillars of the American way of life are still vitally strong. A black man has now elevated himself to President of the United States. Perhaps it might not be the black man I would have chosen, but for many Americans who have long struggled to totally grasp the legitimacy and faith many of us have in our embedded institutions, this will propel them a bit closer. I think that is a good thing. Perhaps Obama's policies might hinder our vibrant civil society, time will tell but similar to the Great Society the policies can be reversed and probably won't be as damaging as many of us are predicting. Further, Obama is inheriting a mess and with our devotion to free speech his every move will be scrutinized and compared to his promises of Camelot. I hope he and his cronies don't use racism as a shield for the criticism that is coming his way. Conservative talk radio got a shot in the arm like no other yesterday. In the end I still believe in the American dream and while Obama wasn't my man, I am proud that the fundamental underpinnings of our way of life were exonerated. Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. I think we also invented fake hooters in this country, that is pure genius innovation right there. We can survive another Great Society! __________________ She had a psychiatrist who said because I didn't trust the water system, the school system, the government, I was paranoid," he said. "I had a psychiatrist who said her psychiatrist was stupid." Last edited by Goatnapper'96; 11-05-2008 at 02:40 PM.

11-05-2008, 03:23 PM	#2
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	I actually heard Lee Greenwood singing in the background as I read that. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.