Bronco names new Defensive Coordinator - kind of

[OrangeUte]

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695243089,00.html

How is this newsworthy if nothing changes? I can't believe that Hill agreed to stick around for this. to me, it's a slap in the face to give him a title "in name only" but where "nothing changes" and Mendenhall still has control of the defense. Then, to claim he is the first African American Coordinator at BYU - that's ridiculous unless he's actually been made the first African American Coordinator in more than just title. i see this as insulting to Hill.

[smokymountainrain]

Originally Posted by OrangeUte

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695243089,00.html

How is this newsworthy if nothing changes? I can't believe that Hill agreed to stick around for this. to me, it's a slap in the face to give him a title "in name only" but where "nothing changes" and Mendenhall still has control of the defense. Then, to claim he is the first African American Coordinator at BYU - that's ridiculous unless he's actually been made the first African American Coordinator in more than just title. i see this as insulting to Hill.

Either you couldn't be more wrong about it being insulting to Hill or Hill is too much of an idiot to see that it should be insulting to him. Which is it?

It's fairly obvious he wasn't insulted by it.

[OrangeUte]

Originally Posted by smokymountainrain

Either you couldn't be more wrong about it being insulting to Hill or Hill is too much of an idiot to see that it should be insulting to him. Which is it?

It's fairly obvious he wasn't insulted by it.

i'm sure hill has been promised that eventually he will be given full control. but to call him the defensive coordinator, without him being the actual defensive coordinator is kind of like saying i just bought a new lexus but i wasn't given the keys. hill is a stud and he deserves to be the dc. i think it is silly to make an announcement that he is the dc and then to say that really, nothing has changed.

[smokymountainrain]

Originally Posted by OrangeUte

i'm sure hill has been promised that eventually he will be given full control. but to call him the defensive coordinator, without him being the actual defensive coordinator is kind of like saying i just bought a new lexus but i wasn't given the keys. hill is a stud and he deserves to be the dc. i think it is silly to make an announcement that he is the dc and then to say that really, nothing has changed.

I tend to agree with you, but apparently it's not much of an issue to Hill. Possibly due to the reason you mentioned in your first sentence.

[non sequitur]

I got the impression that when Bronco said not much will change that he was playing up the role that Hill has played thus far, making sure that Hill gets credit for the success of the defense. Being named the DC entails an upgrade in pay and prestige. No one is going to see that as a slap in the face.

[OrangeUte]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

I got the impression that when Bronco said not much will change that he was playing up the role that Hill has played thus far, making sure that Hill gets credit for the success of the defense. Being named the DC entails an upgrade in pay and prestige. No one is going to see that as a slap in the face.

first part could be correct, but i still disagree w/ the last sentence. ambition is not satisfied w/ pay increase only - at least not for me. it would be like my lawfirm telling me i can consider myself a partner but then not giving me a greater role or pay w/ the firm.

[FMCoug]

Originally Posted by OrangeUte

first part could be correct, but i still disagree w/ the last sentence. ambition is not satisfied w/ pay increase only - at least not for me. it would be like my lawfirm telling me i can consider myself a partner but then not giving me a greater role or pay w/ the firm.

Or if you had already been a rainmaker for several years as an associate, big clients, etc. and they finally made you a partner and gave you the requisite pay. But your day to day role didn't really change because you'd already been doing the things a partner does.

[OrangeUte]

Originally Posted by FMCoug

Or if you had already been a rainmaker for several years as an associate, big clients, etc. and they finally made you a partner and gave you the requisite pay. But your day to day role didn't really change because you'd already been doing the things a partner does.

so you're saying that during the last year, while hill was the db coach, he was essentially the dc? no.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by OrangeUte

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695243089,00.html

How is this newsworthy if nothing changes? I can't believe that Hill agreed to stick around for this. to me, it's a slap in the face to give him a title "in name only" but where "nothing changes" and Mendenhall still has control of the defense. Then, to claim he is the first African American Coordinator at BYU - that's ridiculous unless he's actually been made the first African American Coordinator in more than just title. i see this as insulting to Hill.

appearance over content.
Not that surprising.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Brian

appearance over content.
Not that surprising.

The explanation may have been so poorly worded that we may not know what actually transpired. One key point many may be missing. Hill got a pay raise.

I believe what is transpiring is that Hill is getting credit for the defensive play this year generally and that Bronco is simply stating, "hey guys, Hill was really the real deal last year, so we're moving him up in title to what he was actually doing."

So those who want to find something condescending about it, should probably move along.