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Archaea · 11-09-2007, 07:09 AM

over the last fifty years?

Perhaps I'm jaded but no president is even close.

NorCal Cat · 11-09-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

over the last fifty years?

Perhaps I'm jaded but no president is even close.

Agree.

il Padrino Ute · 11-09-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

over the last fifty years?

Perhaps I'm jaded but no president is even close.

I would. I'd even put him ahead of FDR based solely on taxes.

TripletDaddy · 11-09-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

over the last fifty years?

Perhaps I'm jaded but no president is even close.

If you are jaded, then the entire country must have been jaded.

There is no comparable electoral mandate to Reagan's re-election in 1984. 525 out of 538 possible votes. No other president has done this.

His funeral procession went through my hometown of Thousand Oaks, CA. My wife and our ddd's went home that weekend, as did all my siblings and their spouses, and we went down the street to the main road to camp out for a few hours and wait for the motorcade.

What impressed me most about that day was the bi-partisan atmosphere. There seemed to be as many Dems as Reps along the route...at least where we were. People were swapping stories about the "old days" when Reagan was Gov of California, about the fall of communism, and other Reagan-related anecdotes. When the procession drove by, people waved flags, there were tears, some people sang "God Bless America." I dont think we will ever see another President to his equal....at least in our lifetime. Clinton was impactful, effective, and popular, but extremely divisive. Reagan was and remains iconic of an era when the US came of age as the sole global superpower.

I am glad I am old enough to remember The Great Communicator.

MikeWaters · 11-09-2007, 02:15 PM

Some would argue for JFK. Some would argue for Bill Clinton.

I don't hear too many bitter complaints against Bill Clinton by conservatives, other than that he lied about a blow job.

One thing I admired about Clinton, despite hating him, is that he was always timely in his messages. For example, after the China food and toy poisoning fiasco, Clinton would have announced brand new procedures, exec. order to strengthen testing etc. George Bush on the other hand takes no active public measure, and instead we hear about how his appointee is fighting new testing measures saying they are unneccessary. Only THIS week, do we hear a bit of news that Bush is doing something.

I think this is symptomatic of the Shrub presidency. The wrong fights. The wrong decisions. No pulse on America.

TripletDaddy · 11-09-2007, 02:36 PM

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Some would argue for JFK. Some would argue for Bill Clinton.

I don't hear too many bitter complaints against Bill Clinton by conservatives, other than that he lied about a blow job.

One thing I admired about Clinton, despite hating him, is that he was always timely in his messages. For example, after the China food and toy poisoning fiasco, Clinton would have announced brand new procedures, exec. order to strengthen testing etc. George Bush on the other hand takes no active public measure, and instead we hear about how his appointee is fighting new testing measures saying they are unneccessary. Only THIS week, do we hear a bit of news that Bush is doing something.

I think this is symptomatic of the Shrub presidency. The wrong fights. The wrong decisions. No pulse on America.

Not sure where your parents' political loyalties lie, but if you actually talk to dems that were alive during the JFK era, many will tell you that he wasnt really that great of a President.

As a matter of fact, his legacy consists of a sniper to his dome, an allegedly hot wife who wore cool clothes, an affair with Marilyn, a botched Bay of Pigs invasion. You can give him the Cuban Missle Crisis, but even then, he needed U Thant to get everyone to the table and disarm.

Most of Kennedy's legacy is a romanticized memory of a Camelot that really never was. Politically, Kennedy accomplished very little as a President.

Indy Coug · 11-09-2007, 02:44 PM

Reagan's competition is so weak, he wins in a landslide. Best president of the last 50 years.

MikeWaters · 11-09-2007, 02:46 PM

Ok, now we have to argue about who the worst President was. I think it's a dogfight between Shrub and Carter.

Indy Coug · 11-09-2007, 02:49 PM

Carter and again, it's not even close. The only positive thing that can be said about Carter is that he didn't have enough time in office to let Russia invade our borders.

TripletDaddy · 11-09-2007, 02:50 PM

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Ok, now we have to argue about who the worst President was. I think it's a dogfight between Shrub and Carter.

Wow, to me this is an open and shut case.

Only one of the two tortured the globe for 2 terms. At least Carter had the decency to be beaten in his bid for re-election.

W needed the Supreme Court to nudge him over the finish line--another iconic first amonst presidential pedigrees.

He has the lowest approval ratings of any president in the modern era of approval ratings.

His own party doesnt even like him.

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MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Some would argue for JFK. Some would argue for Bill Clinton. I don't hear too many bitter complaints against Bill Clinton by conservatives, other than that he lied about a blow job. One thing I admired about Clinton, despite hating him, is that he was always timely in his messages. For example, after the China food and toy poisoning fiasco, Clinton would have announced brand new procedures, exec. order to strengthen testing etc. George Bush on the other hand takes no active public measure, and instead we hear about how his appointee is fighting new testing measures saying they are unneccessary. Only THIS week, do we hear a bit of news that Bush is doing something. I think this is symptomatic of the Shrub presidency. The wrong fights. The wrong decisions. No pulse on America.

11-09-2007, 02:44 PM	#7
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Reagan's competition is so weak, he wins in a landslide. Best president of the last 50 years.

11-09-2007, 02:46 PM	#8
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Ok, now we have to argue about who the worst President was. I think it's a dogfight between Shrub and Carter.

11-09-2007, 02:49 PM	#9
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	Carter and again, it's not even close. The only positive thing that can be said about Carter is that he didn't have enough time in office to let Russia invade our borders.