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Old 09-15-2007, 04:56 PM   #1
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Joseph Smith Jr. rewrote a portion of D&C 76 into poetic form (the poetic and prophetic are closely linked), and published it in the Times & Seasons in 1843:

"By him, of him, and through him, the worlds were all made,
Even all that career in the heavens so broad,
Whose inhabitants, too, from the first to the last,
Are sav'd by the very same Saviour of ours;
And, of course, are begotten God's daughters and sons"

But then there's Brigham Young in 1867:

"Brigham Young taught that there are many Saviors; that inhabited worlds 'would be redeemed by the sheding of the blood of the Savior of the world."' (Wilford Woodruff's Diary)

and Brigham Young again in 1870:

"every earth has its redeemer, and every earth has its tempter..." (JD, 14:71)
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:13 PM   #2
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Well I've heard some people interpret passages in Obadiah to mean that anyone who does temple work essentially becomes a savior for his proxy dead dude. I've always took it to mean a person could have saviors from different purposes, meanwhile Christ's atoning sacrifice was the ultimate savior act that trumps them all. Without that atonement, the work of the other sub-saviors becomes moot.

Along those lines, I don't see why others wouldn't have "saviors" that we don't know about. Wouldn't President Hinckley's example make him a savior to an observing nonmember?

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Old 09-15-2007, 06:12 PM   #3
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and Brigham Young again in 1870:

"every earth has its redeemer, and every earth has its tempter..." (JD, 14:71)
This is implicitly taught in the temple ceremony.
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