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Old 09-21-2007, 03:55 PM   #31
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I am saying that protection of the community is usually the number one reason that people are kicked out of communities.
And Section 10 page 105 of the current handbook agrees with you:

"Consequently, transgressions that significantly impair the good name or moral influence of the Church may require the action of a disciplinary council."

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Old 09-21-2007, 04:27 PM   #32
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So far, we have excommunication compared to:

1. The purging death of the flood
2. Blood atonement
3. Islamic jihad
4. Getting the "full santos" on CB

Oh, and the token post about what an jerk mullah Tex is. It's like Where's Waldo: there's one in every thread.

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Old 09-21-2007, 04:30 PM   #33
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(My access to the Handbook is facilitated by dating the Executive Secretary)
Does he know you date him not so you can hold the priesthood, but because of his keys to the Good Book?
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So far, we have excommunication compared to:

1. The purging death of the flood
2. Blood atonement
3. Islamic jihad
4. Getting the "full santos" on CB

Oh, and the token post about what an jerk mullah Tex is. It's like Where's Waldo: there's one in every thread.

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What do you compare it to? Would you rather people shut up and not talk about it?
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What do you compare it to? Would you rather people shut up and not talk about it?
spooning. that's what he would compare it to.
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What do you compare it to? Would you rather people shut up and not talk about it?
Church discipline makes me think about the ultimate purposes of the atonement. Is there any analogy that truly encapsulates that?
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Church discipline makes me think about the ultimate purposes of the atonement. Is there any analogy that truly encapsulates that?
Church discipline is about protecting and controlling the community, nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:36 PM   #38
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Church discipline makes me think about the ultimate purposes of the atonement. Is there any analogy that truly encapsulates that?
You might have the real concept down, but for me church discipline reminds me of dealing with children.
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Church discipline makes me think about the ultimate purposes of the atonement. Is there any analogy that truly encapsulates that?
Do you mean that through the atonement and grace of Christ self-righteous men who unintentionally or intentionally cut off sinners from the church and their perceived access to God can realize their errors, repent of their sins, and become more like Christ? Then, yes I agree, it is a proper analogy.

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Do you mean that through the atonement and grace of Christ self-righteous men who unintentionally or intentionally cut off sinners from the church and their perceived access to God can realize their errors, repent of their sins, and become more like Christ? Then, yes I agree, it is a proper analogy.

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hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men
No, that's not what I meant.
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