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Old 04-10-2008, 03:03 PM   #1
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This is getting ugly:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8872379?source=rv

Sadly, the majority of people in the world will not distinguish FLDS from LDS. I suppose this is the price that we continue to pay for polygamy.

Meanwhile, a majority of Utahns are just fine with removing the children:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269082,00.html
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:10 PM   #2
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This is sounding more and more like a den of evil.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:11 PM   #3
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This is getting ugly:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8872379?source=rv

Sadly, the majority of people in the world will not distinguish FLDS from LDS. I suppose this is the price that we continue to pay for polygamy.

Meanwhile, a majority of Utahns are just fine with removing the children:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269082,00.html
Except for the underaged part, you have a problem with that?

Many cultures used their places of worship as gardens of fertility. Perhaps that's what the Garden of Eden was supposed to be.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:11 PM   #4
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This thread has the word sex in the title.

It's guaranteed to get at least five pages of responses.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:14 PM   #5
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This is getting ugly:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8872379?source=rv

Sadly, the majority of people in the world will not distinguish FLDS from LDS. I suppose this is the price that we continue to pay for polygamy.

Meanwhile, a majority of Utahns are just fine with removing the children:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269082,00.html
Yes, ONE. BTW......all LDS temples have beds in them. In the 'infirmary'. If they FLDS had the same and then someone makes a claim (like many excommunicated members do), it becomes the gospel truth?

This should get real interesting.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #6
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This is getting ugly:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8872379?source=rv

Sadly, the majority of people in the world will not distinguish FLDS from LDS. I suppose this is the price that we continue to pay for polygamy.

Meanwhile, a majority of Utahns are just fine with removing the children:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269082,00.html
with removing the children? Just shows how ignorant and naive Utahns are with respect to the laws of the land. I guess one person can make a claim and it justifies the authorities to round up everyone? Hell, even terrorists have their apologists when it comes to due process.
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This is getting ugly:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8872379?source=rv

Sadly, the majority of people in the world will not distinguish FLDS from LDS. I suppose this is the price that we continue to pay for polygamy.

Meanwhile, a majority of Utahns are just fine with removing the children:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269082,00.html
The first article mentioned Merrill Jessop as being the bishop of the ranch. I believe he is the ex husband of Carolyn Jessop, who wrote this book, Escape.
http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Carolyn...7841146&sr=8-1

Has anyone read this book? Here is a recent interview with her, where she describes her ex husband using water torture on infants. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24009286/

It looks like Carolyn Jessop will be on the Diane Rehm show on Monday.
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Old 04-10-2008, 04:02 PM   #8
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This is getting ugly:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8872379?source=rv

Sadly, the majority of people in the world will not distinguish FLDS from LDS. I suppose this is the price that we continue to pay for polygamy.

Meanwhile, a majority of Utahns are just fine with removing the children:

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695269082,00.html
Will a legal expert lawyer type chime in here. What impact does it have on the permissibility of discovered evidence found in a search based upon an affadavit and warrant that names the wrong man? Further, what is the legality of using such evidence discovered in the search in prosecutions against other men not named in the original warrant, if of course the permissibility is not impacted based upon the wrong name?

I am beginning to believe that Jeffs was purposely endeavoring to provoke some authorities with his YFZ Ranch.
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with removing the children? Just shows how ignorant and naive Utahns are with respect to the laws of the land. I guess one person can make a claim and it justifies the authorities to round up everyone? Hell, even terrorists have their apologists when it comes to due process.
<laughs condescendingly in shock at the ignorance of Texas law in this statement>

Can I get an Irony Police ruling here?
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Will a legal expert lawyer type chime in here. What impact does it have on the permissibility of discovered evidence found in a search based upon an affadavit and warrant that names the wrong man? Further, what is the legality of using such evidence discovered in the search in prosecutions against other men not named in the original warrant, if of course the permissibility is not impacted based upon the wrong name?

I am beginning to believe that Jeffs was purposely endeavoring to provoke some authorities with his YFZ Ranch.
Shouldn't have any, if my memory is up to snuff. It's all about whether or not the affidavit, warrant, and reliance thereon were in good faith.

As I have stated before in other places, I have no problem with what Texas has done to date. I think so doubly after actually reading the affidavit and finding out that the local cops had managed to groom a snitch.
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