What makes someone an "Anti"?

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

"Anti-Mormon" doesn't necessarily decribe WHAT they say, but WHY they're saying it.

And why DO they say what they do? Do they know the mormon church is really true, but have given their souls to Satan and simply do his bidding, or are they sincere believers in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and feel as though mormons have perverted things that they hold sacred?

Are the motivations of the "antis" really as malevolent as most in the Church would have us believe?

[Archaea]

Obviously, the Tanners are great examples of people up to no good. Why somebody is whacko probably falls within the realm of unknowable. Reading the intentions of a person's heart it impossible.

However, if the design is to harm the Church, then that attitude, as manifested by publications or spoken word reveal one to be antithetical to the aims and purposes of the Church. All of us have met at least one, somebody who has almost no interest save to critisize the Church. I regard "anti" as somebody "antithethical" to the aims and purposes of the Church. Now, there can be varying degrees of antitheticism, such as the Tanners, or somebody who got exed and tells his friends and neighbors negative stuff.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

And why DO they say what they do? Do they know the mormon church is really true, but have given their souls to Satan and simply do his bidding, or are they sincere believers in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and feel as though mormons have perverted things that they hold sacred?

Are the motivations of the "antis" really as malevolent as most in the Church would have us believe?

Well, I can tell you from personal experience with some antis that it isn't genuine Christian concern and compassion that motivates them. The tone of their voices, the words/expletives they used and so forth made that pretty clear.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_cor/6

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Well, I can tell you from personal experience with some antis that it isn't genuine Christian concern and compassion that motivates them. The tone of their voices, the words/expletives they used and so forth made that pretty clear.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_cor/6

The Justice Potter Stewart standard, useful for somebody with a refined eye, but not useful to the uninitiated.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

The Justice Potter Stewart standard, useful for somebody with a refined eye, but not useful to the uninitiated.

I'm unfamiliar with that reference. As the only LDS member in a school of 700 in the heart of the Bible belt (Chattanooga, TN), I got to experience plenty of truly anti-Mormon abuse.

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Well, I can tell you from personal experience with some antis that it isn't genuine Christian concern and compassion that motivates them. The tone of their voices, the words/expletives they used and so forth made that pretty clear.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/2_cor/6

Take a guy like Aaron Shaf, for example. The guy may be a nut job, and he may be a tool, but I still think he sincerely believes he is defending something that he holds sacred. I don't think he's evil, just severely deluded.

[non sequitur]

Originally Posted by Archaea

The Justice Potter Stewart standard, useful for somebody with a refined eye, but not useful to the uninitiated.

Are you referring to his standard for obscenity? The one that basically says, "I can't define it, but when I see it I know it."?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

Take a guy like Aaron Shaf, for example. The guy may be a nut job, and he may be a tool, but I still think he sincerely believes he is defending something that he holds sacred. I don't think he's evil, just severely deluded.

He's not defending what he holds sacred. He's attacking what he considers profane. Big difference.

If you visit with a JW missionary, they will attack your beliefs and tell you why they are wrong.

If you talk to a Mormon missionary, they will tell you about JS and the BoM and ask you to pray about it.

Big difference.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I'm unfamiliar with that reference. As the only LDS member in a school of 700 in the heart of the Bible belt (Chattanooga, TN), I got to experience plenty of truly anti-Mormon abuse.

In a US Supreme Court, Potter Stewart wrote a snippet he later regretted writing when trying to describe pornography, stating, "I know it when I see it." Fortunately, the Supreme Court did not rely upon that standard.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He's not defending what he holds sacred. He's attacking what he considers profane. Big difference.

If you visit with a JW missionary, they will attack your beliefs and tell you why they are wrong.

If you talk to a Mormon missionary, they will tell you about JS and the BoM and ask you to pray about it.

Big difference.

And if you try to convert a radical Muslim, they will kill you.