The Chinese will be stripped of their gold medal.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

But didn't Jones admit she cheated before her medals were taken away? If so, Jones in an anomaly in the sports world - or the non sports world for the matter. I doubt the Chinese would admit wrongdoing on their part.

I have much more respect for Marion Jones than I do for Bonds or Clemens.

Those guys deny the obvious.

At least Jones ovaried up and admitted she was a cheater. I think she gets out of jail in a few weeks.

[SteelBlue]

I wouldn't want the gold if I were the US team. You're telling me I get a gold medal now because some 11 year olds kicked my ass? Yeah, that'd make me feel like a champion.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

So, why is there an age limit? Are younger gymnasts really that much better than older ones? Why? Seems that youth could also have its dissadvantages.

I am guessing it is an issue of exploitation.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I have much more respect for Marion Jones than I do for Bonds or Clemens.

Those guys deny the obvious.

At least Jones ovaried up and admitted she was a cheater. I think she gets out of jail in a few weeks.

Agreed. What integrity she had squandered by cheating was regained by admitting she had done it and accepting the consequences.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

I wouldn't want the gold if I were the US team. You're telling me I get a gold medal now because some 11 year olds kicked my ass? Yeah, that'd make me feel like a champion.

That's a good point. Still, winning is winning. I bet Washington would gladly take the '84 MNC should it become available.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

I wouldn't want the gold if I were the US team. You're telling me I get a gold medal now because some 11 year olds kicked my ass? Yeah, that'd make me feel like a champion.

the only thing about that: we could have sent our tweens, as well, but we didnt.

if the Chinese want to claim that their 11 year olds are better factory workers or heavy machinery operators, then fine.

But we need to compare apples to apples when it comes to underage gymnasts.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

the only thing about that: we could have sent our tweens, as well, but we didnt.

I need to know the reason for the rule. I'm assuming it's to protect young children from overzealous coaches. If it's generally accepted that being a tween is actual beneficial to Olympic performance then perhaps I could change my mind. I can't imagine any sport where that would be true though.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

That's a good point. Still, winning is winning. I bet Washington would gladly take the '84 MNC should it become available.

Not if they'd lost to us head to head but then later found out that we had some Junior High aged ringers on the team during the game.

[Solon]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I have much more respect for Marion Jones than I do for Bonds or Clemens.

Those guys deny the obvious.

At least Jones ovaried up and admitted she was a cheater. I think she gets out of jail in a few weeks.

She only owned up when she was staring at jail. She published a book in which she denied any wrongdoing. Her friends and family backed her for years. I'll be they feel pretty betrayed.

BTW, my wife raced against Jones in a high school track meet. I'm going to see about getting that victory stripped from Jones as well.

PS - love the use of "ovaried up." You should TM that.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Solon

She only owned up when she was staring at jail. She published a book in which she denied any wrongdoing. Her friends and family backed her for years. I'll be they feel pretty betrayed.

She is still a cheater, yes.

But of the 3, she is the most honest cheater.

Bonds and Clemens continue to lie.

it is better to admit it under penalty of punishment than to not admit it at all (assuming that the admission is truthful)