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Archaea · 03-16-2008, 09:38 PM

Μολὼν λαβέ

Leonides in response to Xerxes demand, "Spartans lay down your arms,"

Leonides is said to have made that statement, transliterated as Molon Labe, a paratactic, lacking conjunction. Having come, take is what it could mean. Basically, "Over my dead body."

If Trent, Tav and Cummard could exhibit that motto, we could win a game or two.

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2008, 09:41 PM

Sure, that would work if the BYU is playing Michigan State. What if the opponent is St. Mary's?

Gaels lay down your arms" just doesn't sound as good.

All-American · 03-16-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Μολὼν λαβέ

Leonides in response to Xerxes demand, "Spartans lay down your arms,"

Leonides is said to have made that statement, transliterated as Molon Labe, a paratactic, lacking conjunction. Having come, take is what it could mean. Basically, "Over my dead body."

If Trent, Tav and Cummard could exhibit that motto, we could win a game or two.

I like the translation most people use: Come and get them. One of the all-time great one liners in a series of fantastic laconic one liners.

Archaea · 03-16-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by All-American

I like the translation most people use: Come and get them. One of the all-time great one liners in a series of fantastic laconic one liners.

Yes but isn't molon a first aorist, meaning "having come"? You and Solon are the Greek masters, I am but a humble student.

Doesn't it kinda mean, "you can only get them after you succeed in coming here."

Whereas the English is more ambiguous. Wouldn't an appropriate colloquial be "Over my dead body"?

non sequitur · 03-16-2008, 10:46 PM

I'm guessing Arch and AA got beat up a lot when they were kids. And I'm also guessing that Il Pad was one of the guys beating them up.

Cali Coug · 03-16-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Μολὼν λαβέ

Leonides in response to Xerxes demand, "Spartans lay down your arms,"

Leonides is said to have made that statement, transliterated as Molon Labe, a paratactic, lacking conjunction. Having come, take is what it could mean. Basically, "Over my dead body."

If Trent, Tav and Cummard could exhibit that motto, we could win a game or two.

I hope their motto doesn't require an explanation that delves into Greek history...

All-American · 03-16-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Yes but isn't molon a first aorist, meaning "having come"? You and Solon are the Greek masters, I am but a humble student.

Doesn't it kinda mean, "you can only get them after you succeed in coming here."

Whereas the English is more ambiguous. Wouldn't an appropriate colloquial be "Over my dead body"?

A participle followed by a command is just as good as a dual command.

ute4ever · 03-16-2008, 11:35 PM

What happened to the motto of "Sweet Sixteen?"

As in, it's been sixteen years since BYU last tasted the sweetness of postseason victory.

Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll save the rest of my smack for UFN.

TripletDaddy · 03-16-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

Μολὼν λαβέ

Leonides in response to Xerxes demand, "Spartans lay down your arms,"

Leonides is said to have made that statement, transliterated as Molon Labe, a paratactic, lacking conjunction. Having come, take is what it could mean. Basically, "Over my dead body."

There is a sweet innocence to your posts that I find endearing.

Archaea · 03-16-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by non sequitur

I'm guessing Arch and AA got beat up a lot when they were kids. And I'm also guessing that Il Pad was one of the guys beating them up.

Often kids were afraid of me, I don't know why.

03-16-2008, 09:38 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Let this be the Cougars Tourney motto Μολὼν λαβέ Leonides in response to Xerxes demand, "Spartans lay down your arms," Leonides is said to have made that statement, transliterated as Molon Labe, a paratactic, lacking conjunction. Having come, take is what it could mean. Basically, "Over my dead body." If Trent, Tav and Cummard could exhibit that motto, we could win a game or two. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

03-16-2008, 09:41 PM	#2
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Sure, that would work if the BYU is playing Michigan State. What if the opponent is St. Mary's? Gaels lay down your arms" just doesn't sound as good. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

03-16-2008, 10:46 PM	#5
non sequitur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,964	I'm guessing Arch and AA got beat up a lot when they were kids. And I'm also guessing that Il Pad was one of the guys beating them up. __________________ ...You've been under attack for days, there's a soldier down, he's wounded, gangrene's setting in, 'Who's used all the penicillin?' 'Oh, Mark Paxson sir, he's got knob rot off of some tart.'" - Gareth Keenan

03-16-2008, 11:35 PM	#8
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	What happened to the motto of "Sweet Sixteen?" As in, it's been sixteen years since BYU last tasted the sweetness of postseason victory. Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll save the rest of my smack for UFN.