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SeattleUte · 11-27-2007, 03:06 PM

Ute fans like funk who want Whittingham to fire Ludwig are unrealistic. Utah is not a BCS school. Even as a second tier school its tradition is thin. I imagine it has a fairly big budget for a non-BCS school, it is close to the cusp, but still....

My point is, why do they think Whittingham can do better? A Utefans poll this year showed the vast majority of Ute fans give Ludwig a B+ to a B for his performance this year. There were a smattering of A's and A+'s and very few grades below B. Ludwig is a seasoned pro. He has been around a long time and coached at some strong programs. He's respected. He's been a part of keeping Utah more than respectable through some real adversity. His offenses have had some really brilliant games. Whittingham could hire an offensive line or quarterback coach someplace, but I doubt he could do better. Anyway, Ludwig is the smart, conservative choice. Whittingham isn't blindly loyal. He's hedging his bets by staying the course. Charging Whittingham with blind loyalty to friends is just silly. There's not a case for firing Ludwig.

Archaea · 11-27-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Ute fans like funk who want Whittingham to fire Ludwig are unrealistic. Utah is not a BCS school. Even as a second tier school its tradition is thin. I imagine it has a fairly big budget for a non-BCS school, it is close to the cusp, but still....

My point is, why do they think Whittingham can do better? A Utefans poll this year showed the vast majority of Ute fans give Ludwig a B+ to a B for his performance this year. There were a smattering of A's and A+'s and very few grades below that. Ludwig is a seasoned pro. He has been around a long time and coached at some strong programs. He's respected. He's been a part of keeping Utah more than respectable through some real adversity. His offenses have had some really brilliant games. Whittingham could hire an offensive line or quarterback coach someplace, but I doubt he could do better. Anyway, Ludwig is the smart, conservative choice. Whittingham isn't blindly loyal. He's hedging his bets by staying the course. Charging Whittingham with blind loyalty to friends is just silly. There's not a case for firing Ludwig.

Ludwig does appear to be a good, safe choice.

He has experience and his offense will have some good games and some average games. He won't pull a Crowton where it just implodes and he can be a lightening rod. He can be a lifetime supporter and will often take much of the heat.

All-American · 11-27-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

I'm not sure I'd call "two last minute miracles from being 0-3" dominance.

Of course you wouldn't-- you are a Utah fan. You haven't expunged the last vestiges of McBride just yet. "Almost" still counts for something for you.

11-27-2007, 03:06 PM	#41
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Ute fans like funk who want Whittingham to fire Ludwig are unrealistic. Utah is not a BCS school. Even as a second tier school its tradition is thin. I imagine it has a fairly big budget for a non-BCS school, it is close to the cusp, but still.... My point is, why do they think Whittingham can do better? A Utefans poll this year showed the vast majority of Ute fans give Ludwig a B+ to a B for his performance this year. There were a smattering of A's and A+'s and very few grades below B. Ludwig is a seasoned pro. He has been around a long time and coached at some strong programs. He's respected. He's been a part of keeping Utah more than respectable through some real adversity. His offenses have had some really brilliant games. Whittingham could hire an offensive line or quarterback coach someplace, but I doubt he could do better. Anyway, Ludwig is the smart, conservative choice. Whittingham isn't blindly loyal. He's hedging his bets by staying the course. Charging Whittingham with blind loyalty to friends is just silly. There's not a case for firing Ludwig. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster Last edited by SeattleUte; 11-27-2007 at 03:14 PM.