cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board  

Go Back   cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board > non-Sports > Literae Humaniores
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-29-2007, 07:23 PM   #1
Archaea
Assistant to the Regional Manager
 
Archaea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Orgasmatron
Posts: 24,338
Archaea is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Why does Attic not use "dual"?

Do I need to learn the "dual" forms to read the New Testament or Homer?
__________________
Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα
Archaea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2007, 01:53 AM   #2
Solon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Happy Valley, PA
Posts: 1,866
Solon is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaea View Post
Do I need to learn the "dual" forms to read the New Testament or Homer?
Duals are pretty rare, but they do show up. Any time I find a form that completely stumps me, it of course ends up being a dual. I wouldn't worry about them too much, but you should at least be familiar enough to know where to look in the grammar book when you can't figure out what the hell that form is.

BTW, I can't really think of a wider difference in ancient Greek between New Testament and Homer. 800+ years. When you get there, you might want to consider picking up a more specific lexicon for either one. I have an old Homeric dictionary that I love (got it at an estate sale). I'm sure there's something more modern out there than my 1904 reprint of Autenrieth.
__________________
I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. I am free. - Epitaph of Nikos Kazantzakis (1883-1957)
Solon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2007, 08:49 PM   #3
Chapel-Hill-Coug
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 216
Chapel-Hill-Coug is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaea View Post
Do I need to learn the "dual" forms to read the New Testament or Homer?
IIRC you'll see dual forms here and there in Homer (or maybe I'm just remembering older alternate genitive endings), but otherwise, seriously, don't give them a second thought. You won't see them studying the NT.

PS: Homer was a blast to study in Greek, but if you're interested in the NT, you may just want to stick with later Attic stuff. Everything from the diction to the style of Homer is VERY different from NT Greek. Knowing Attic IS a decent bridge between the two, but Homer is far on one side of the bridge while NT is well on the other side.
Chapel-Hill-Coug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2007, 08:52 PM   #4
Chapel-Hill-Coug
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 216
Chapel-Hill-Coug is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solon View Post
Duals are pretty rare, but they do show up. Any time I find a form that completely stumps me, it of course ends up being a dual. I wouldn't worry about them too much, but you should at least be familiar enough to know where to look in the grammar book when you can't figure out what the hell that form is.

BTW, I can't really think of a wider difference in ancient Greek between New Testament and Homer. 800+ years. When you get there, you might want to consider picking up a more specific lexicon for either one. I have an old Homeric dictionary that I love (got it at an estate sale). I'm sure there's something more modern out there than my 1904 reprint of Autenrieth.
I haven't seen the one you're referring to, but I own Cunliffe's *Lexicon of the Homeric Dialect* and it is fabulous.
Chapel-Hill-Coug is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.