No terrorist attacks on American soil since Sept 2001

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

NOt really.

All the 9/11 attackers were Saudis.

We invaded Afghanistan. Then, when we couldn't get Osama, we went into Iraq.

When are we going to invade Saudi Arabia? They are probably terrified of us.

You mean the Saudi government directed their citizens to attack us on 9/11?

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Have you had to use your life insurance policy yet? Why keep paying premiums?

P.S. I don't own a gun, but I do lock my doors.

Auto insurance is required by law.

Now the tide is shifting. Everyone is coming at me with examples of how security measure provide peace of mind. I never argued this point.

Your insurance example provides no proof that owning insurance ever meant that I was going to get into an accident in the first place.

I agree that wiretapping makes me feel better. I disagree that it shows that we are going to be attacked next weekend.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

How many times have you had to use your gun to protect your family....errrrrr.....and your property, Senor Castle Doctrine?

House behind me broken into twice. Not that long ago, helicopter and cops circling house, suspects had broken into house/garage and holed up after fleeing the police. We've had a house invasion in my neighborhood about 1.5 yr ago, I have a neighbor two houses down who said until recently he had a car stolen or broken into every year. Our LDS neighbors next street over had their car broken into and a semester's worth of law school notes stolen.

I've been robbed of some equipment I have left outside.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. For those of us in the REAL WORLD, self-defense is a REAL concept.

One more: 20 pound stone through my father's car's back window overnight in front of my home.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

You mean the Saudi government directed their citizens to attack us on 9/11?

The Saudis fostered an environment that led to the indoctrination, motive, and financial ability to attack the USA.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

You mean the Saudi government directed their citizens to attack us on 9/11?

No more than Saddam sponsored terrorists to attack the US.

Or the Afghani government sponsored terrorists to attack the US. Check that....what Afghani government?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Auto insurance is required by law.

Now the tide is shifting. Everyone is coming at me with examples of how security measure provide peace of mind. I never argued this point.

Your insurance example provides no proof that owning insurance ever meant that I was going to get into an accident in the first place.

I agree that wiretapping makes me feel better. I disagree that it shows that we are going to be attacked next weekend.

Auto insurance <> life insurance. The next time you happen to drive by the maximum penitentiary, I would like to invite you to go into the shower area, pull your pants down, bend over and sing Karma Chameleon. Odds are you won't get raped, but you won't exactly be placing that bet from a position of strength.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

House behind me broken into twice. Not that long ago, helicopter and cops circling house, suspects had broken into house/garage and holed up after fleeing the police. We've had a house invasion in my neighborhood about 1.5 yr ago, I have a neighbor two houses down who said until recently he had a car stolen or broken into every year. Our LDS neighbors next street over had their car broken into and a semester's worth of law school notes stolen.

I've been robbed of some equipment I have left outside.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. For those of us in the REAL WORLD, self-defense is a REAL concept.

So, your answer would be zero, Annie Oakley?

Keep that gun close at night. The boogeyman is coming to get you.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Auto insurance <> life insurance. The next time you happen to drive by the maximum penitentiary, I would like to invite you to go into the shower area, pull your pants down, bend over and sing Karma Chameleon. Odds are you won't get raped, but you won't exactly be placing that bet from a position of strength.

You asked for insurance. You can feel free to backpeddle now.

This all seems very on-point to whether Bush deserves credit for no terrorist attacks.

Nice Karma Chameleon and prison rape blast, though.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

So, your answer would be zero, Annie Oakley?

Keep that gun close at night. The boogeyman is coming to get you.

Have I had my house invaded? No.

Have I called the police and have had gun in hand? Yes.

For those of us with callouses on our hands, it is very real.

Oh yeah, another neighbor right next to me had his shed broken into and all his lawn equipment stolen.

Really, the only thing left is for us to be robbed or invaded or killed.

How much crime has gone aroun in the houses next to you?

Another LDS neighbor had his van stolen from in front of his house a couple years ago.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

House behind me broken into twice. Not that long ago, helicopter and cops circling house, suspects had broken into house/garage and holed up after fleeing the police. We've had a house invasion in my neighborhood about 1.5 yr ago, I have a neighbor two houses down who said until recently he had a car stolen or broken into every year. Our LDS neighbors next street over had their car broken into and a semester's worth of law school notes stolen.

I've been robbed of some equipment I have left outside.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. For those of us in the REAL WORLD, self-defense is a REAL concept.

One more: 20 pound stone through my father's car's back window overnight in front of my home.

How is your neighbor Robin doing?