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MikeWaters · 08-18-2015, 03:34 AM

the DMN ran an article this past Sunday saying that the Big 12 is going to closely watch what happens this season, and should they be shut out of the playoff again, they will reevaluate their plan. They could get a championship game:

1) with 10 teams, if they get their measure passed next January
2) expand to 12 or more teams

If the Big 12 really wanted BYU, they would have already invited BYU. They don't. Best case for BYU is that the Big 12 reluctantly invites BYU because they feel like they have no better choice.

So this is stacking up to be a very important season for BYU. This would be a horrible year for a debacle season.

So what do we have going for us?
1) good senior QB
2) Bronco running the defense

What do we have going against us?
1) a very difficult schedule for BYU standards
2) The fact that this is the same mediocre BYU with same mediocre players

I predict a very mediocre season with internet fans calling for Bronco to be fired. I predict that BYU will not be invited to the Big 12.

ChinoCoug · 08-18-2015, 12:33 PM

I don't think this season would matter that much.

MikeWaters · 08-18-2015, 02:00 PM

it's what have you done for me lately. having a compelling football product does/will/could have mattered. Ask TCU.

Archaea · 08-20-2015, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

it's what have you done for me lately. having a compelling football product does/will/could have mattered. Ask TCU.

The probabilities suggest your prognostication may come true. Naturally, I am hoping for a better outcome.

Bronco calling defensive plays gives me confidence. The loss of Williams is immeasurable as the back ups are two steps below him in terms of talent.

The difficult schedule will take a toll in terms of injuries. Even an average season with some signature wins could help BYU get an invite. BYU seems unlikely to receive one though.

BlueK · 08-21-2015, 02:34 PM

Putting our BYU fan tendency toward persecution complex combined with self-loathing aside, from a purely sports perspective, if the Big 12 wants more than ten teams, BYU is by far the best available candidate and it's not even close. Cincinnati? Central Florida? Memphis? Give me a break. No fans. No tradition. All swimming in debt.

Let's be honest. It's down to whether BYU's off the field peculiarities are going to lead to the Big 12 making a dumb decision with expansion. We all know that's true and that's why we're frustrated and are scared of being left out. We know we belong. It's not like Iowa State or Kansas State or Texas Tech are better than us. If we were more like Weber State we'd know we don't make any sense for a P5 conference and therefore wouldn't even be talking about it.

MikeWaters · 08-21-2015, 02:47 PM

I think you are wearing blue goggles.

Travel is a big deal too for the non-football sports. No Sunday play is a big deal for those sports too.

Dealing with the BS of BYU bureaucracy is another issue as well.

BYU apparently works hard to make sure nothing is easy.

We deserve to be left out. And left out we will be. We will cry out as martyrs and shake our fist at the sky. We will laud ourselves for our superior morals. And be left on the trash heap.

Archaea · 08-21-2015, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think you are wearing blue goggles.

Travel is a big deal too for the non-football sports. No Sunday play is a big deal for those sports too.

Dealing with the BS of BYU bureaucracy is another issue as well.

BYU apparently works hard to make sure nothing is easy.

We deserve to be left out. And left out we will be. We will cry out as martyrs and shake our fist at the sky. We will laud ourselves for our superior morals. And be left on the trash heap.

This prophecy appears to be true. The Brandon Davies episode bears out that BYU would prefer to be a martyr than to succeed.

MikeWaters · 08-21-2015, 03:56 PM

btw, I would have been suspended on CB for saying what I did. "negativity"

BlueK · 08-21-2015, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think you are wearing blue goggles.

Travel is a big deal too for the non-football sports. No Sunday play is a big deal for those sports too.

Dealing with the BS of BYU bureaucracy is another issue as well.

BYU apparently works hard to make sure nothing is easy.

We deserve to be left out. And left out we will be. We will cry out as martyrs and shake our fist at the sky. We will laud ourselves for our superior morals. And be left on the trash heap.

Travel is a red herring being raised mostly by W. Virginia. We're closer geographically to most of the Big 12 than W. Virginia is. With divisions it would not be THAT big of a deal, even for non-rev sports. BYU and WVU wouldn't play all that often, and for conference wide events like track, golf, and baseball tournaments, everyone would meet somewhere in the middle anyway. Should be a non-issue. Just an excuse.

The Sunday thing is a big deal in some of the non-rev sports, not really with basketball which hasn't played its tournament on Sunday for several years now. But there has been talk about taking BYU for football only, which I would be ok with.

MikeWaters · 08-21-2015, 04:16 PM

But BYU is in the mountain west, which has few eyeballs. Compared to the east coast which has a lot of eyeballs. If you are going to travel far, why not east? East is better than west.

08-18-2015, 03:34 AM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Predicting the future the DMN ran an article this past Sunday saying that the Big 12 is going to closely watch what happens this season, and should they be shut out of the playoff again, they will reevaluate their plan. They could get a championship game: 1) with 10 teams, if they get their measure passed next January 2) expand to 12 or more teams If the Big 12 really wanted BYU, they would have already invited BYU. They don't. Best case for BYU is that the Big 12 reluctantly invites BYU because they feel like they have no better choice. So this is stacking up to be a very important season for BYU. This would be a horrible year for a debacle season. So what do we have going for us? 1) good senior QB 2) Bronco running the defense What do we have going against us? 1) a very difficult schedule for BYU standards 2) The fact that this is the same mediocre BYU with same mediocre players I predict a very mediocre season with internet fans calling for Bronco to be fired. I predict that BYU will not be invited to the Big 12.

08-21-2015, 02:34 PM	#5
BlueK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,368	Putting our BYU fan tendency toward persecution complex combined with self-loathing aside, from a purely sports perspective, if the Big 12 wants more than ten teams, BYU is by far the best available candidate and it's not even close. Cincinnati? Central Florida? Memphis? Give me a break. No fans. No tradition. All swimming in debt. Let's be honest. It's down to whether BYU's off the field peculiarities are going to lead to the Big 12 making a dumb decision with expansion. We all know that's true and that's why we're frustrated and are scared of being left out. We know we belong. It's not like Iowa State or Kansas State or Texas Tech are better than us. If we were more like Weber State we'd know we don't make any sense for a P5 conference and therefore wouldn't even be talking about it. Last edited by BlueK; 08-21-2015 at 02:37 PM.

08-18-2015, 12:33 PM	#2
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	I don't think this season would matter that much.

08-18-2015, 02:00 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	it's what have you done for me lately. having a compelling football product does/will/could have mattered. Ask TCU.

08-21-2015, 02:47 PM	#6
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I think you are wearing blue goggles. Travel is a big deal too for the non-football sports. No Sunday play is a big deal for those sports too. Dealing with the BS of BYU bureaucracy is another issue as well. BYU apparently works hard to make sure nothing is easy. We deserve to be left out. And left out we will be. We will cry out as martyrs and shake our fist at the sky. We will laud ourselves for our superior morals. And be left on the trash heap.

08-21-2015, 03:56 PM	#8
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	btw, I would have been suspended on CB for saying what I did. "negativity"

08-21-2015, 04:16 PM	#10
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	But BYU is in the mountain west, which has few eyeballs. Compared to the east coast which has a lot of eyeballs. If you are going to travel far, why not east? East is better than west.