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The "Kiss-In"
I read this AP article yesterday on a staged "Kiss-in" by gay activists, and was perplexed by two different quotes.
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The act of homosexuality is highly immoral. It is serious sin, of the sort particularly destructive to the soul. It sets those who engage in it at odds with God and inhibits the influence of Spirit of the Lord. Proponents say it is simply nature, but Alma cautioned that man's "state of nature" is nothing but carnality, bitterness, and bondage. Proponents say it is the only way for a person with this temptation to be happy, but again Alma warned that acquiescing to nature puts a man "in a state contrary to the nature of happiness." "Okay, fine," some will say, "but what gives you the right to force your religion on others?" It isn't really a religious question, but a moral one. It so happens that in my case, my religion informs my morals, but as my atheist friends are fond of reminding me, one does not need religion for morality. Society has long used the law to outline the boundaries of morality. Merely labeling something a civil right does not make it so, nor does it grant immunity from the democratic process. It is not only our right, but our solemn divine obligation to "correct the morals" and "strengthen the virtues" of our communities. As it concerns Prop 8, states like California are communities--albeit large ones--in their own ways, and roughly half of them have acted in favor of protecting traditional marriage. We are under covenant to continue the effort to oppose normalization of immorality, whatever its form.
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So like Scalia, you believe the state has the right to make homosexual sex illegal?
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If you're referring to Lawrence, I agree with Scalia that the Court's reasoning was nakedly political and not legally sound.
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Do you advocate for homosexual sex being illegal?
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Advocate? No, I don't think I advocate that.
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of course being that we while we may believe certain things are commandments from God, we do allow for freedoms that violate those commandments in many instances.
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We're talking about whether the church's aggressive stance on marriage is interference with a civil right and/or "a force for evil."
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Today on NRO, Maggie Gallagher provides some very real but non-cataclysmic short-term predictions about the consequences of gay marriage:
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The problem for me with gay marriage is not just about marriage (though that's certainly important). As I alluded in my first post ... it's about legitimization. And I don't believe the gay community--particularly the militant wing--will be satisfied with stopping at marriage. They seek to force acceptance of their lifestyle and quell any opposing view. Marriage is just the current battleground.
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