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All-American · 07-23-2007, 04:43 AM

Here is a true heavyweight battle. Which of these two do you, the CG poster, consider to be MORE intellectually dishonest?

RockyBalboa · 07-23-2007, 04:35 PM

SU's attempts at spiritual subterfuge are more transparent.

Archaea · 07-23-2007, 04:37 PM

spiritual subterfuge?

He's not trying to be spiritual at all. He's basing his claims on quasi-empirical analysis, carefully selecting his points while ignoring others.

It's basically a rhetorical battle for him.

All-American · 07-24-2007, 05:29 AM

So far, no surprises.

Sleeping in EQ · 07-24-2007, 02:24 PM

Not all FARMS work is of the same caliber. Once in a while when a FARMS researcher gets an article published in a reviewed journal it tends to be of higher quality. It also tends to not get counted as FARMS work.

Tex · 07-24-2007, 03:11 PM

Maybe it's just me, but the "you won't answer me; speaks volumes" line has to be one of the most trite and overused I've seen on this board.

Sorry, All-American.

creekster · 07-24-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

Maybe it's just me, but the "you won't answer me; speaks volumes" line has to be one of the most trite and overused I've seen on this board.

Sorry, All-American.

Once again, it's just you.

Tex · 07-24-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creekster

Once again, it's just you.

Speaks volumes.

SeattleUte · 07-24-2007, 03:21 PM

Seattle leads 10-7. The scared puppies are on his side.

All-American · 07-24-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Maybe it's just me, but the "you won't answer me; speaks volumes" line has to be one of the most trite and overused I've seen on this board.

Sorry, All-American.

Oh, no, it's dumb indeed. But it's SU's signature line, and every time it is used, it is a jab at SU-- thus, it's triteness is somewhat diminished by its utility.

I note that at present, there are as many people who have used this response by which they make fun of him than there are people who think he is less intellectually dishonest than FARMS.

It speaks . . . well, it says a lot.

View Poll Results: Who is MORE intellectually dishonest?
SeattleUte	9	45.00%
FARMS	6	30.00%
I'm too scared to vote. Speaks volumes.	5	25.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

07-23-2007, 04:43 AM	#1
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	Intellectual Honesty: SU v. FARMS Here is a true heavyweight battle. Which of these two do you, the CG poster, consider to be MORE intellectually dishonest? __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

07-23-2007, 04:35 PM	#2
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	SU's attempts at spiritual subterfuge are more transparent. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

07-23-2007, 04:37 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	spiritual subterfuge? He's not trying to be spiritual at all. He's basing his claims on quasi-empirical analysis, carefully selecting his points while ignoring others. It's basically a rhetorical battle for him. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

07-24-2007, 05:29 AM	#4
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	So far, no surprises. __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

07-24-2007, 02:24 PM	#5
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	Not all FARMS work is of the same caliber. Once in a while when a FARMS researcher gets an article published in a reviewed journal it tends to be of higher quality. It also tends to not get counted as FARMS work. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

07-24-2007, 03:11 PM	#6
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	Maybe it's just me, but the "you won't answer me; speaks volumes" line has to be one of the most trite and overused I've seen on this board. Sorry, All-American.

07-24-2007, 03:21 PM	#9
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Seattle leads 10-7. The scared puppies are on his side. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster