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il Padrino Ute · 07-12-2008, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Dwayne, stick around.

Guys, this story sounds way more credible than that Community of Christ story. I said so in the other thread even before reading this explanation. Give Dwayne a break.

Seattle, unless I'm mistaken, you seem to take pride in knowing how to identify a troll. How can you possibly not recognize this one?

myboynoah · 07-12-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Seattle, unless I'm mistaken, you seem to take pride in knowing how to identify a troll. How can you possibly not recognize this one?

Well, he/she says he/she is a Ute Fan, so that tracks well.

My guess: Steve Tate.

il Padrino Ute · 07-12-2008, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myboynoah

Well, he/she says he/she is a Ute Fan, so that tracks well.

My guess: Steve Tate.

See, you've been fooled as well. Only a zoob would claim to be gay and a Ute fan.

My guess: Bob Jensen.

TripletDaddy · 07-12-2008, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

Does this mean CG did NOT come up googling "All Is Not Well In Zion: False Teachings of the True Church"?

How disappointing.

No it does not, but you are the last person to be complaining about fakes.

SeattleUte · 07-12-2008, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex

Does this mean CG did NOT come up googling "All Is Not Well In Zion: False Teachings of the True Church"?

How disappointing.

So this man Anesthesia has quite a sense of humor.

Anthesian · 07-12-2008, 05:30 AM

I know that I was wrong in the false perception that I presented in the other board. That was wrong and I know it.

Imagine for instance, LDS.net is a very card-carrying board. It is like entering into the "Zion Ward". The reaction to mine and my partners situation and our ideals would come under heavy scrutiny. It would be like being asked not to attend the ward again. Why do you think I decided to go along with the fabrication? It wasn't right! I should have taken my chances and it would have been better to be eaten by the wolves there than to go along with the story I did.

As I said before, things weren't always nice in the ward I'm in. The first bishop was very intolerant. He never shook mine or my partners hand in church. He hardly acknowledged us. The bishop I have now is very real. I know this because I grew up with him in my home ward from the ages of 14-17. I know his son. His son succeeded in hanging himself but not to the point of no return.

I know now that I should take the chance, as I have here, to be real about my background and hold nothing back.

I know I have lied. I apologize. I have no right to chastise anyone. However, lets remember a lesson that I'm sure each of us has been affected by: The woman caught in adultery and what the Savior said to the men present.

It is hard to put myself and for my partner to put himself out there to a majority of the members of the church. I should be stronger in the conviction that I know I have. That conviction is that I shouldn't care what anyone on any board or in any church thinks of me or my relationship. Three of my partners siblings have rejected him and one of mine has rejected me...simply by admission to our 'abominable' lifestyle. I don't want pity. I took a bad form of what I thought was a precaution when I should have taken the chance at rejection.

Actually, when I googled "All Is Not Well In Zion", I also put in "by Paul Toscano". Like I said before, Paul Toscano's piece came up as part of a link to a discussion to this webboard.

The title of the discussion is: Lying for the Lord v. Justified in not telling the whole truth

The fast link I used was this: http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9772

Once again, I am guilty of misrepresentation of who I am on another board. I apologize.

Would you honestly be strong enough, if you were in my position, to fully put yourself out there...open to criticism as an apostate, a defilement of God's eternal plan, a second class member of the church, an abomination? Admittedly, I was not on that specific board. How sad. I understand the way you feel. I had a good friend that I had told about my orientation in confidence and by Sunday, I had an emergency meeting with my university ward bishop. I was asked not to use my priesthood until he and his counselors made a decision concerning me. This was when my partner was a missionary in my university ward and I had never done anything sexually with another man. The worst was automatically assumed. Why?

Sorrowfully,
Dwayne

il Padrino Ute · 07-12-2008, 05:43 AM

I found a 3rd online personality of yours:

http://www.christiandiscussionforums...d.php?t=112012

You might fool Seattle Ute, but you can't fool the rest of us.

TripletDaddy · 07-12-2008, 05:51 AM

You have 2 massive strikes against you:

First, you are a terrible liar.

Second, your strongest advocate here is SeattleUte.

PS on an unrelated note, please settle an argument. Do you think that taxpayers pay Kobe Bryant's salary?

YOhio · 07-12-2008, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

PS on an unrelated note, please settle an argument. Do you think that taxpayers pay Kobe Bryant's salary?

Assuming Jerry Buss is a taxpayer, the answer is yes.

TripletDaddy · 07-12-2008, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I found a 3rd online personality of yours:

http://www.christiandiscussionforums...d.php?t=112012

You might fool Seattle Ute, but you can't fool the rest of us.

Holy crap! Brian is a troll, too?

07-12-2008, 05:43 AM	#47
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I found a 3rd online personality of yours: http://www.christiandiscussionforums...d.php?t=112012 You might fool Seattle Ute, but you can't fool the rest of us. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

07-12-2008, 05:51 AM	#48
TripletDaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 9,483	You have 2 massive strikes against you: First, you are a terrible liar. Second, your strongest advocate here is SeattleUte. PS on an unrelated note, please settle an argument. Do you think that taxpayers pay Kobe Bryant's salary? __________________ Fitter. Happier. More Productive. "Everyone is against me. Everyone is fawning for 3D's attention and defending him." -- SeattleUte

07-12-2008, 05:30 AM	#46
Anthesian Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mesa, 2nd Utah County, AZ Posts: 77	I know that I was wrong in the false perception that I presented in the other board. That was wrong and I know it. Imagine for instance, LDS.net is a very card-carrying board. It is like entering into the "Zion Ward". The reaction to mine and my partners situation and our ideals would come under heavy scrutiny. It would be like being asked not to attend the ward again. Why do you think I decided to go along with the fabrication? It wasn't right! I should have taken my chances and it would have been better to be eaten by the wolves there than to go along with the story I did. As I said before, things weren't always nice in the ward I'm in. The first bishop was very intolerant. He never shook mine or my partners hand in church. He hardly acknowledged us. The bishop I have now is very real. I know this because I grew up with him in my home ward from the ages of 14-17. I know his son. His son succeeded in hanging himself but not to the point of no return. I know now that I should take the chance, as I have here, to be real about my background and hold nothing back. I know I have lied. I apologize. I have no right to chastise anyone. However, lets remember a lesson that I'm sure each of us has been affected by: The woman caught in adultery and what the Savior said to the men present. It is hard to put myself and for my partner to put himself out there to a majority of the members of the church. I should be stronger in the conviction that I know I have. That conviction is that I shouldn't care what anyone on any board or in any church thinks of me or my relationship. Three of my partners siblings have rejected him and one of mine has rejected me...simply by admission to our 'abominable' lifestyle. I don't want pity. I took a bad form of what I thought was a precaution when I should have taken the chance at rejection. Actually, when I googled "All Is Not Well In Zion", I also put in "by Paul Toscano". Like I said before, Paul Toscano's piece came up as part of a link to a discussion to this webboard. The title of the discussion is: Lying for the Lord v. Justified in not telling the whole truth The fast link I used was this: http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9772 Once again, I am guilty of misrepresentation of who I am on another board. I apologize. Would you honestly be strong enough, if you were in my position, to fully put yourself out there...open to criticism as an apostate, a defilement of God's eternal plan, a second class member of the church, an abomination? Admittedly, I was not on that specific board. How sad. I understand the way you feel. I had a good friend that I had told about my orientation in confidence and by Sunday, I had an emergency meeting with my university ward bishop. I was asked not to use my priesthood until he and his counselors made a decision concerning me. This was when my partner was a missionary in my university ward and I had never done anything sexually with another man. The worst was automatically assumed. Why? Sorrowfully, Dwayne