Church Discipline

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Here is one example:

1 A Word OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

The scripture says NOT by commandment

Handbook of instructions says: No Alcohol is a commandment.

Which one do we follow?

Did you miss the memo where the entire body of the church in the 1800s agreed to make the Word of Wisdom binding; thereby making it a commandment?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Did you miss the memo where the entire body of the church in the 1800s agreed to make the Word of Wisdom binding; thereby making it a commandment?

Is it in the scriptures? If so please tell me the Section and verse of the D&C

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Is it in the scriptures? If so please tell me the Section and verse of the D&C

It was the fall 1851 General Conference. I don't recollect if it appeared in the Church HOI prior to 1851.

Are you going to bust out the Book of Revelation on me now and start talking about 'let no man add to or take away from...'?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

Here is one example:

1 A Word OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

The scripture says NOT by commandment

Handbook of instructions says: No Alcohol is a commandment.

Which one do we follow?

I guess we need a review of the Rigdon/Young story.

Once upon a time there were two conflicting views of how scripture should influence church doctrine. Sidney Rigdon (I think it was Sidney) stood up and gave a speech about the scriptures being God's word, and we ought to confine ourselves to the teachings there in. Brigham Young stood up following and declared that the scriptures do not declare the word of God to us in our day as do the words of a prophet. Joseph stood and said, "Brigham has taught you the truth."

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

It was the fall 1851 General Conference. I don't recollect if it appeared in the Church HOI prior to 1851.

Are you going to bust out the Book of Revelation on me now and start talking about 'let no man add to or take away from...'?

Indy, if you have a clue about the history of the WoW, you are not evidencing it here.

[Sleeping in EQ]

You can drive a truck through "based on."

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

You can drive a truck through "based on."

As long as a living prophet with the proper keys of the priesthood is driving the trunk, that doesn't bother me.

[Mormon Red Death]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

It was the fall 1851 General Conference. I don't recollect if it appeared in the Church HOI prior to 1851.

Are you going to bust out the Book of Revelation on me now and start talking about 'let no man add to or take away from...'?

that's interesting and all this time i thought we'd be judged by what was written in the scriptures. i guess in realty we will be judged on some obscure binding agreement (that i may add was not enforced) in 1851

that's enlightening

if the church wants the wow to be contrary to dc89 then where is the revelation????

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

that's interesting and all this time i thought we'd be judged by what was written in the scriptures. i guess in realty we will be judged on some obscure binding agreement (that i may add was not enforced) in 1851

that's enlightening

if the church wants the wow to be contrary to dc89 then where is the revelation????

The church receives revelation every single day from the top on down. Not all of them are canonized with chapter and verse, Sidney.

[MikeWaters]

Tex, I receive revelations from time to time. Should I start writing chapter and verse?