I really have zero respect for Islam

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

How about the truth about God, for starters? And the role Jesus Christ plays as Savior?

ah ,so you were serious? and have you searched about how religious minority believers are living in islamic countires befor starting this thread? i bet you havenot!

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Isn't Israel similar?

Sort of. They ban missionaries, but I don't believe they threaten you with death for converting.

[NorCal Cat]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

i wonder WAHT mormon missionaries are you going to offer muslims ?umm..ploygamy ?? well ,we already have that.

Well, they aren't going to kill you if you don't convert.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

As long as Islam does not embrace freedom of religion and an open religious "market", I believe Islam is unworthy of any respect or admiration.

Muslims really only give lip-service to this. And many do not do even that.

As long as Mormon missionaries are not allowed into primarily Muslim countries, I have no respect for Islam. Zero.

This is a tough one for me. I've only really known one muslim very well. She was a well educated woman from India. A delightful, open minded and very religiously devout woman.
It's hard to understand how such extremes could come about.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Brian

This is a tough one for me. I've only really known one muslim very well. She was a well educated woman from India. A delightful, open minded and very religiously devout woman.
It's hard to understand how such extremes could come about.

Did you ever ask her about her concept of religious freedom?

You might be surprised at what she said.

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Did you ever ask her about her concept of religious freedom?

You might be surprised at what she said.

i am certain that a "Well educated,delightful, open minded and very religiously devout person KNOWS and VALUES the concept of religious freedom ,so Brian's infromation isnot going to help you prove your point ..so you may want to educate us with sharing your stories about how islam disregards religious freedom?

[Mindfulcoug]

Originally Posted by NorCal Cat

Well, they aren't going to kill you if you don't convert.

no one is going to kill you if you convert FROM islam .
you ought to study the case if you like ,i would educate you in here though ,but you might just not believe me !

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by mindfulcoug

i am certain that a "Well educated,delightful, open minded and very religiously devout person KNOWS and VALUES the concept of religious freedom ,so Brian's infromation isnot going to help you prove your point ..so you may want to educate us with sharing your stories about how islam disregards religious freedom?

Show me one Islamic nation that allows proselyting by Christians.

Here's the challenge. If Islam is so true, can't it withstand the proselyting of Christians?

If Christianity were so false, wouldn't Muslims be able to see it, so as not to have to resort to violence and murder?

Murder of Coptics in Egypt does occur, my friend. I have many Coptic friends who have left Egypt for that very reason. We even have Egyptian converts in my church congregation who discuss the religious intolerance of Egypt.

Turkey is probably the most tolerant, well know, a non-Arabic, non-Persian is the most tolerant, Indonesia, but outside of that no Muslim nation allows proselyting by Christians. We would allow proselyting by Muslims, why are the Muslims afraid?

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

By their fruits you will know them. Murder is a bad fruit.

Our scriptures are full of supposedly righteous people doing the same thing. Christians are the worst and it's not even close. Christians have murdered countless non-believers. The Muslims that would murder are extremists much like the Aryans are Christian extremists.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

Our scriptures are full of supposedly righteous people doing the same thing. Christians are the worst and it's not even close. Christians have murdered countless non-believers. The Muslims that would murder are extremists much like the Aryans are Christian extremists.

Christians who murdered did so for political and conquest reasons. Christians had a Dark Era, but at least through Enlightenment we outgrew our imbecilic period.

When will Islam leave its savagery behind?