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tooblue · 02-09-2008, 02:09 AM

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...710844,00.html

myboynoah · 02-09-2008, 03:36 AM

Thanks tooblue. It's odd, the more time passes, the more "Christianity" accepts the truths restored by Joseph Smith.

splitbamboo · 02-11-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

Thanks tooblue. It's odd, the more time passes, the more "Christianity" accepts the truths restored by Joseph Smith.

I've wondered that myself. What has been the influence of LDS doctrine on the Christian population as a whole?

Has anybody looked at this idea from an academic standpoint?

pelagius · 02-11-2008, 06:35 PM

Most Mormons would like NT Wright (this is not a new statement by him either; it just the first time that Time magazine has noticed). However, it should be clear that he would have major disagreements with Mormon over points of doctrine. My prediction is that for Mormons he is going to be the next C.S. Lewis. I think he will start to see him quoted in General Conference over the next 20 years.

If you haven't done it before take a look at some of his sermons sometimes.

I like his 2005 Easter Vigil (I mentioned it in one of my lesson notes early last year on the guard):

http://meam-commemorationem.blogspot...-vigil-05.html

Archaea · 02-11-2008, 06:38 PM

I also think they'd like Ben Witherington III. He has a nice site.

pelagius · 02-11-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

I also think they'd like Ben Witherington III. He has a nice site.

Agreed. I think Witherington is a good example of Faithful scholarship. Witherington's biblical commentaries are worth buying. It would be really nice if instead of seeing Deseret Book offer Joel Osteen books (and I have nothing against Osteen except that I don't perceive a lot of depth) they promoted Wright and Witherington. Both of them offering thoughtful faithful voices from an evangelical perspective.

Archaea · 02-11-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius

Agreed. I think Witherington is a good example of Faithful scholarship. Witherington's biblical commentaries are worth buying. It would be really nice if instead of seeing Deseret Book offer Joel Olsteen books (and I have nothing against Olsteen except that I don't perceive a lot of depth) they promoted Wright and Witherington. Both of them offering thoughtful faithful voices from an evangelical perspective.

If we could have Witherington, Wright, Ehrman, Goodacre, the guy out of Oxford, and few others, it would make Deseret Book actually useful.

pelagius · 02-11-2008, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

If we could have Witherington, Wright, Ehrman, Goodacre, the guy out of Oxford, and few others, it would make Deseret Book actually useful.

Let me add that I like Witherington's post on Hermeneutics on his blog from a while back:

http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/...xed-bible.html

ChinoCoug · 02-11-2008, 08:33 PM

bodily resurrection is in the Roman Creed. Why the hades don't traditional Christians accept it?

Archaea · 02-11-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius

Let me add that I like Witherington's post on Hermeneutics on his blog from a while back:

http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/...xed-bible.html

Excellent indeed.

He has lots of good stuff, but I liked this one:

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This is why I often offer the aphorism-- a text without a context is just a pretext for whatever you want it to mean.

02-09-2008, 02:09 AM	#1
tooblue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,016	Christians Wrong About Heaven, Says Bishop http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...710844,00.html

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myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	Thanks tooblue. It's odd, the more time passes, the more "Christianity" accepts the truths restored by Joseph Smith. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

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Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	I also think they'd like Ben Witherington III. He has a nice site. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

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ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	bodily resurrection is in the Roman Creed. Why the hades don't traditional Christians accept it? __________________ 太初有道

02-11-2008, 06:35 PM	#4
pelagius Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,431	Most Mormons would like NT Wright (this is not a new statement by him either; it just the first time that Time magazine has noticed). However, it should be clear that he would have major disagreements with Mormon over points of doctrine. My prediction is that for Mormons he is going to be the next C.S. Lewis. I think he will start to see him quoted in General Conference over the next 20 years. If you haven't done it before take a look at some of his sermons sometimes. I like his 2005 Easter Vigil (I mentioned it in one of my lesson notes early last year on the guard): http://meam-commemorationem.blogspot...-vigil-05.html