Let me ask one of the forbidden questions...

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Could be. What are other interpretations of the "lands of their inheritance"? I'm seriously interested.

Well wasn't America promised a land of inheritance for Lehi coming out of Jerusalem?

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Well wasn't America promised a land of inheritance for Lehi coming out of Jerusalem?

Sure. But what does that have to do with the Jews as a whole? Lehi was a Jew of the House of Israel, but aren't there several parts in the BoM (especially Jacob 5) that indicate that America is for Lehi's seed (and eventually the Gentiles)?

That's what leads me to take the other scriptures refering to the Jews' land of inheritance at face value to mean their promised land (Jerusalem and the surrounding area).

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

Sure. But what does that have to do with the Jews as a whole? Lehi was a Jew of the House of Israel, but aren't there several parts in the BoM (especially Jacob 5) that indicate that America is for Lehi's seed (and eventually the Gentiles)?

That's what leads me to take the other scriptures refering to the Jews' land of inheritance at face value to mean their promised land (Jerusalem and the surrounding area).

What's done is done, but the scriptures could have been spun to meet those decisions had they been wisely made.

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by Archaea

What's done is done, but the scriptures could have been spun to meet those decisions had they been wisely made.

That's it?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

That's it?

I would never make a political decision based on some vague promise of canon. To me, that is folly. Make a decision based on good policy.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

We should have never kicked the Ottomans out of the Middle East. It seems things ran much better when they were in charge.

They should have never sided with the Germans in WWI. Their bad.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by YOhio

They should have never sided with the Germans in WWI. Their bad.

And now the Turks have to suffer because of that unfortunate decision.

[Colly Wolly]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I would never make a political decision based on some vague promise of canon. To me, that is folly. Make a decision based on good policy.

And then "spin" the scriptures to convince yourself you made the right decision? Weird. It's obvious the Middle East is a mess, but I'm having a hard time being convinced that it's not supposed to be this way.

What I quoted was from the BoM. Either Western powers referenced the BoM when deciding on the Jewish state, or Joseph Smith was one inspired dude.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

And then "spin" the scriptures to convince yourself you made the right decision? Weird. It's obvious the Middle East is a mess, but I'm having a hard time being convinced that it's not supposed to be this way.

What I quoted was from the BoM. Either Western powers referenced the BoM when deciding on the Jewish state, or Joseph Smith was one inspired dude.

that's what I hate about millenial thinking. The idea that when things are going to hell, they are going right.

Wake up. We're supposed to build a better world. We are supposed to be just.

I have a Jewish colleague who told me, "you know what I like about Mormons? Like Jews, they believe the world can be redeemed."

GBH has specifically counseled against this crap kind of millenial thinking.

[MikeWaters]

I would point out one other thing: if I was a politician, and I whispered it as a complete hypothetical thought experiment, my career would be assassinated.