Palestinian Right of Return

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Thanks Jerry Falwell. Do some reading and come back when you want a serious discussion. That you can't find any wrongdoing by Israel says everything I need to know.

And Tex went right for "Jews."

It's a cop out.

I have great respect for Jews and Judaism (and for Islam as well).

The religious dimensions of the conflict do not have to be a deal breaker. Judaism and Islam have gotten along without killing each other through long stretches of history.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

And Tex went right for "Jews."

It's a cop out.

I have great respect for Jews and Judaism (and for Islam as well).

SIEQ, don't comment on my posts unless you have the cahones to unignore me and actually engage in a discussion.

Bloody coward.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Israel gets 99% favorable coverage in the media, and among Americans in general.

If one person talks about the plight of the Palestinians, he is a bigot and an anti-semite.

You are correct as far as media in the U.S. goes. U.S. media consumers have been primed to hate Arabs and Muslims since the days of silent film and radio serials like Chandu the Magician.

Britain has a problem too. The BBC did a study of it's own bias on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and came to the conclusion that it had a strong pro-Israeli bias. The BBC has been trying to be more even handed...

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

You are correct as far as media in the U.S. goes. U.S. media consumers have been primed to hate Arabs and Muslims since the days of silent film and radio serials like Chandu the Magician.

Britain has a problem too. The BBC did a study of it's own bias on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and came to the conclusion that it had a strong pro-Israeli bias. The BBC has been trying to be more even handed...

The BBC coverage of the Intifada of the late 80s was decidedly pro-Palestinian.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

Hasn't worked after 40 years, has it.

On the contrary. It worked on you. And on the majority of the US public.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

On the contrary. It worked on you. And on the majority of the US public.

What I mean is, it hasn't worked on the Palestinians. But even so ... is there a statue of limitations on war borders? Shall we demand Alsace-Lorraine go back to Germany once more?

How long do Israelis have to live there before it's considered "their" land? Never? Could not that whole argument be applied to all of Israel? This gets much more complex once you push past the bumpersticker bromides.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

The BBC coverage of the Intifada of the late 80s was decidedly pro-Palestinian.

Since I'm covering the topic in an upcoming show, I'll check out your assertion.

Here's what I'm referring to. The actual report is here in my filing cabinet:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004...leeastthemedia

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

What I mean is, it hasn't worked on the Palestinians. But even so ... is there a statue of limitations on war borders? Shall we demand Alsace-Lorraine go back to Germany once more?

I'm waiting for the illegal aliens to assert their right of return due to the 19th century expansionist aggression in Texas and the Mexican-American War.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by BYU71

I am not a historical scholar, so I ask this question. How many of the Muslim nations were demanding the Soviets get out of Eastern Bloc Countries? Right now are the Muslim nations demanding China get out of Tibet? What demands are they making of the Burma Junta?

I have no idea. I doubt they are enthusiastic supporters of forced occupations. What is your point?

Originally Posted by BYU71

I would like to see a settlement and I would like to see Isarael in a position to give them some land and have peace. However, I don't know why but I can't seem to think unless Israel just packs up and moves to the US the Arabs will leave them alone.

That's a weak justification for the settlements in the West Bank.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Since I'm covering the topic in an upcoming show, I'll check out your assertion.

Here's what I'm referring to. The actual report is here in my filing cabinet:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004...leeastthemedia

I'm basing my comments on personal observation. The coverage essentially boiled down to pictures of brave young Palestinians throwing rocks at heavily armed Israeli troops, protraying the Israelis as bullies who had overstepped their bounds.