McClellan savages Bush and the Bush admin

[MikeWaters]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

It's not that the incompetence and deception depicted is news. What is news is someone on the inside of the Bush circle owning up to it.

Bush makes Carter look like a genius.

Here we are with Bush about to leave:
1. mired in a deadly and costly and unnecessary conflict
2. our standing in the world among democratically-minded people severely diminished
3. huge debt, huge govt spending
4. a recession
5. civil liberties for Americans in the toilet
6. an administration that has advocated, in effect, for the DC gun ban

I could go on and on. When you put a moron in office, and he is surrounded my evil men, well, we know how this story goes...

Obama, at least, seems not to be a moron. He's got that going for him.

[Tex]

Guarantees some brisk book sales, doesn't it.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

It's not that the incompetence and deception depicted is news. What is news is someone on the inside of the Bush circle owning up to it.

Bush makes Carter look like a genius.

Here we are with Bush about to leave:
1. mired in a deadly and costly and unnecessary conflict
2. our standing in the world among democratically-minded people severely diminished
3. huge debt, huge govt spending
4. a recession
5. civil liberties for Americans in the toilet
6. an administration that has advocated, in effect, for the DC gun ban

I could go on and on. When you put a moron in office, and he is surrounded my evil men, well, we know how this story goes...

Obama, at least, seems not to be a moron. He's got that going for him.

Still proud of being a Texan, Mike?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Still proud of being a Texan, Mike?

Definitely, my Texas pride has taken a hit. Moreso from this FLDS debacle however.

Now the state govt. is arguing that if the children are returned to their parents, the parents MIGHT LEAVE THE STATE.

WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK, WITH NOTHING LEGALLY HOLDING THEM HERE IN TEXAS, AND TEXAS DEMONSTRATING HOW FAIR-MINDED THEY ARE, OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS STUPID STATE!

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html

It's not that the incompetence and deception depicted is news. What is news is someone on the inside of the Bush circle owning up to it.

Bush makes Carter look like a genius.

Here we are with Bush about to leave:
1. mired in a deadly and costly and unnecessary conflict
2. our standing in the world among democratically-minded people severely diminished
3. huge debt, huge govt spending
4. a recession
5. civil liberties for Americans in the toilet
6. an administration that has advocated, in effect, for the DC gun ban

I could go on and on. When you put a moron in office, and he is surrounded my evil men, well, we know how this story goes...

Obama, at least, seems not to be a moron. He's got that going for him.

McClellan's book bothers me on multiple levels. If he disagreed with Bush at the time on the war, he should have said something to Bush. If he learned he had been lied to about war intelligence, he should have said something to the press or to Congress. If he learned Bush was manipulating intelligence, he should have said something to the press or Congress. He didn't.

Either he is a lousy human being just now doing the right thing for the wrong reason, or he is a lousy human being doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. In either event, I don't think McClellan will do so well in history.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

McClellan's book bothers me on multiple levels. If he disagreed with Bush at the time on the war, he should have said something to Bush. If he learned he had been lied to about war intelligence, he should have said something to the press or to Congress. If he learned Bush was manipulating intelligence, he should have said something to the press or Congress. He didn't.

Either he is a lousy human being just now doing the right thing for the wrong reason, or he is a lousy human being doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. In either event, I don't think McClellan will do so well in history.

okie-dokey big shot.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

okie-dokey big shot.

I am starting to understand why you had to create your own forum. Not many others can tolerate you.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

McClellan's book bothers me on multiple levels. If he disagreed with Bush at the time on the war, he should have said something to Bush. If he learned he had been lied to about war intelligence, he should have said something to the press or to Congress. If he learned Bush was manipulating intelligence, he should have said something to the press or Congress. He didn't.

Either he is a lousy human being just now doing the right thing for the wrong reason, or he is a lousy human being doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. In either event, I don't think McClellan will do so well in history.

I agree.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I am starting to understand why you had to create your own forum. Not many others can tolerate you.

there is a reason you are tangled in embrace with Tex.

He that can hear, let him hear.

You are one strange cat.

Can't we get a real democrat on this site? Just one??? If you in 2008 agree with the decision to invade Iraq you are no democrat. That with the intelligence we had, it was worth invading, killing, occupying. But I take it you are against avoiding any other "threatening" countries.

I mean, the most liberal guys here might be Lebowski and MudPhud, and I don't really count them as democrats.

We don't have one frickin democrat on this entire site. Sad. We have a Persian and an Israeli Zionist, but no democrat.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

We don't have one frickin democrat on this entire site. Sad. We have a Persian and an Israeli Zionist, but no democrat.

ChinoCoug, FrankRyan, and DetroitDad are all dems.