My brother, 2 years younger than me, is gay

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

Don't try to talk me out of our friendship, DDD.

Point: UtahDan!

[Tex]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

How about I ride up on my white horse and help your down off your cross? We can then dismount together. It has been your choice to not humanize yourself in any way shape or form here and elsewhere. All one can see is the attitudes you have and they are without compassion. I bet you aren't like this in person, though.

If that's all you've gotten out of my 6000 posts here, you really haven't been paying attention.

What a complete waste of my time.

[MikeWaters]

1. I may be wrong, but I believe studies indicate that boys raised with two gay men as parents are not more likely to be gay.

2. I know my brother desperately did not want to be gay. He even went through counseling with Bishops and such in hopes of reversing it.

Whether my brother has a married male spouse versus a male live-in long-term partner will probably not be a factor in whether any of my kids become gay. I think what Levin is trying to say is that any possible knowledge or reference to a relative regarding his gayness should be avoided, up to and and including completely disowning that relative and not allowing ones kids to know of his existence. Maybe I am reading it wrong.

Regardless, I choose not to live that way.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by Tex

If that's all you've gotten out of my 6000 posts here, you really haven't been paying attention.

What a complete waste of my time.

It is difficult, indeed, to see ourselves as others do. I am no exception.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Levin

I understand that "is this your field?" is to you what "cite?" is to IndyCoug.

Can you honestly say that the legitimization of gay marriage (and therefore of gay sex) will not result in greater numbers having sexual experiences with members of the same sex?

I'm not asking for speculation or windbaggery. You have the burden of proof here. Despite the enormous efforts of people like you not a shred of evidence has been discovered to support what you're saying.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

It is difficult, indeed, to see ourselves as others do. I am no exception.

Not here. You all continually remind me. My last day here will be like my first: being told what a heartless bastard I am.

Some things never change.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Tex

If that's all you've gotten out of my 6000 posts here, you really haven't been paying attention.

What a complete waste of my time.

You are likely to be sorely disappointed by the ineffective usage of your time over the past 6,000 posts, because that indeed is how many here see you.

I dont think anyone (from what I can tell) finds you unintelligent....just an aloof pompous know-it-all who is devoid of compassion or meaningful life experience. Hey wait....are we talking about you or me?

Again, I invite you.....are you married? kids? where do you live? what do you do?

Stop being such a tool and engage within the community.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

1. I may be wrong, but I believe studies indicate that boys raised with two gay men as parents are not more likely to be gay.

You are correct. This is the scientific evidence. Hence gay adoptions and gay custody arrangements have become fairly routine. Moreover, there is no evidence people choose to be gay.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

2. I know my brother desperately did not want to be gay. He even went through counseling with Bishops and such in hopes of reversing it.

My brother in law (whom I have known since he was 8 years old and is now 24) also went to extensive LDS counseling to try and "cure" his homosexuality. He remains "uncured".

[Tex]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Stop being such a tool and engage within the community.

It would be far too narcissistic for me to continue in this thread. Cheers.