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Old 07-28-2008, 01:43 AM   #51
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I can confirm that the lesson you described was NOT given statewide in CA. I realize this is not particuallry consequential.
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:46 AM   #52
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I can confirm that the lesson you described was NOT given statewide in CA. I realize this is not particuallry consequential.
But still appreciated.

I think it is like the reading of the letter last month....supposed to happen on the same day, but wound up happening on different Sundays.

So your ward had no special lesson regarding Prop 8?
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:48 AM   #53
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But still appreciated.

I think it is like the reading of the letter last month....supposed to happen on the same day, but wound up happening on different Sundays.

So your ward had no special lesson regarding Prop 8?
None. But we have had a presentatiojn in scarement meeting byt he stake president and also by a HC (on separate weeks) and more lessons are coming.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:19 AM   #54
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The lesson ended with each of us taking a turn reading some selected chapter headings in Deuteronomy.....28, 29, etc....the ones that basically state that Israel was destroyed for disobedience and blessed for obedience. I guess that is the best we have on this topic at this point.
Wasn't that before Christ abolished the lower law and instituted the higher law? Why not read the chapters about an eye for an eye while you're at it?

On a separate point, this whole Proposition 8 fiasco reminds me of the struggles many church members had with polygamy years back, or so I've read. To many spouses, the idea of adding a third wheel to their marriage was horrifying. But they were told, polygamy is the higher law, it is God's will, and the truly righteous will obey, putting God above themselves and their loved ones.

Today, with the compassion and friendships we have formed with same-sex couples, we are essentially being told to turn our backs on them and prove to God that he is #1.

Our diety seems awfully insecure.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:45 AM   #55
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As King Lear said, "Pray, do not mock me....I fear I am not in my perfect mind."
Super quote. Very on point.
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Old 07-28-2008, 02:58 AM   #56
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What's your problem? Follow your own advice, if you can't say anything intelligent in response. I find this whole grotesque spectacle interesting, for obvious reasons. You wouldn't?
My problem is that you take every opportunity you can to bash a religion that I take very personally.

I see you are too big of a pussy to answer the question. I don't know why I'm surprised.
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My problem is that you take every opportunity you can to bash a religion that I take very personally.

I see you are too big of a pussy to answer the question. I don't know why I'm surprised.
I answered the question. What more do you want? Are you like tooblue thinking I've got some secret regret or something? Sorry, not. If anything, I revel in being right.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:05 AM   #58
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I answered the question. What more do you want? Are you like tooblue thinking I've got some secret regret or something? Sorry, not. If anything, I revel in being right.
No, you didn't answer the question. It was: why can't you let it go?

You left the LDS church. But you can't leave it be. Why?
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No, you didn't answer the question. It was: why can't you let it go?

You left the LDS church. But you can't leave it be. Why?
I have friends here I'm trying to help. I haven't really been to church except for funerals in like twenty-five years. Does that clarify things?
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I have friends here I'm trying to help. I haven't really been to church except for funerals in like twenty-five years. Does that clarify things?
I suppose if by helping your friends here, you want them to leave the LDS Church as you did, then I suppose that does answer the question.

However, might I suggest you do it in private messages so those of us who are happy with being a part of it don't have to read your snide comments? Please?
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