Do you feel guilty for never having fought in a war?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Of course the rich have always been getting out of wars. Which essentially proves my point. Thanks for agreeing with me.

What about that recent study which showed that the highest quintile in household income actually had a proportionally higher representation in the armed forces?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What about that recent study which showed that the highest quintile in household income actually had a proportionally higher representation in the armed forces?

The heritage foundation study that was released three days after a study that came to the opposite conclusion. The rebuttal to this study was that looking at zip codes can be very misleading. Because dorm rooms are full of young people with no income.

I think if you ask any person in the military, the idea that the enlisted ranks are teeming with middle class is ridiculous.

[Indy Coug]

Define "Middle Class".

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The heritage foundation study that was released three days after a study that came to the opposite conclusion. The rebuttal to this study was that looking at zip codes can be very misleading. Because dorm rooms are full of young people with no income.

I think if you ask any person in the military, the idea that the enlisted ranks are teeming with middle class is ridiculous.

C'mon Mike, argue the rich don't serve in the same proportion as the other classes. Maybe you can make that argument. To say the military is made up mainly by the poor shows your lack of cognitive skills unless of course the poor are any incomes below say $150,000 a year.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Define "Middle Class".

I think there are a lot of definitions. In my mind, however, it is the sort of family with non-blue collar jobs (though I know that blue collars can sometimes make big $$$), where the kids are expected go to college, home owners, 2 cars, etc.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by BYU71

C'mon Mike, argue the rich don't serve in the same proportion as the other classes. Maybe you can make that argument. To say the military is made up mainly by the poor shows your lack of cognitive skills unless of course the poor are any incomes below say $150,000 a year.

tell me about the kids among the children of your close personal friends and family that are enlisted in the military.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I think there are a lot of definitions. In my mind, however, it is the sort of family with non-blue collar jobs (though I know that blue collars can sometimes make big $$$), where the kids are expected go to college, home owners, 2 cars, etc.

So you're really referring to upper middle class, right? At what percentile of household income does this subpopulation begin?

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

tell me about the kids among the children of your close personal friends and family that are enlisted in the military.

I don't have any close personal friends who are in the middle class.

I also live in a Mormon community and associate with active mormons. There kids go on missions instead of serving in the military, even the poor ones.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

tell me about the kids among the children of your close personal friends and family that are enlisted in the military.

He doesn't know. It is a popular slogan and he can't back it up with figures or facts.

[Clark Addison]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

The Captain that perished in the suicide bombing in the mess tent, he was a freshman in ROTC with me.

Do you mean Captain Bill Jacobsen?