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Indy Coug · 05-06-2008, 05:19 PM

http://www.fairblog.org/2008/05/01/s...aight/#more-80

ute4ever · 05-06-2008, 05:36 PM

And another endless and meaningless diatribe of he said, she said has been hatched.

To those who have the time and interest to read all >229 responses, good for you.

Tex · 05-06-2008, 05:40 PM

One wonders why apostates can't make their case without hyperbole and/or outright lies.

Archaea · 05-06-2008, 05:47 PM

the first and last are all that matter, Tal's and his stake president's.

BYU71 · 05-06-2008, 05:56 PM

I don't understand the point of once you are out going on a crusade.

I will flat out tell you, as if you don't know, the my crap don't stink gang in the church bug me to death. That kind of gang exists in every culture, but it is especially galling to me when they use God as their anchor.

If something happened and I left the church, I would be relieved I never had to engage them again.

SeattleUte · 05-06-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I don't understand the point of once you are out going on a crusade.

I will flat out tell you, as if you don't know, the my crap don't stink gang in the church bug me to death. That kind of gang exists in every culture, but it is especially galling to me when they use God as their anchor.

If something happened and I left the church, I would be relieved I never had to engage them again.

A better question is why Church officials can't just ignore the Tal Bachman types (I haven't read any of this; can someone synopsise? Thanks in advance).

Indy Coug · 05-06-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I don't understand the point of once you are out going on a crusade.

I will flat out tell you, as if you don't know, the my crap don't stink gang in the church bug me to death. That kind of gang exists in every culture, but it is especially galling to me when they use God as their anchor.

If something happened and I left the church, I would be relieved I never had to engage them again.

Who is the "my crap don't stink" crowd, as it pertains to this particular case?

Indy Coug · 05-06-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

A better question is why Church officials can't just ignore the Tal Bachman types (I haven't read any of this; can someone synopsise? Thanks in advance).

Why can't the stake president be permitted to refute a false claim made by Bachman regarding the stake president's testimony? If Bachman had limited his comments to his doubts about Joseph Smith and not pretended to speak for his stake president, the stake president likely would have never responded.

I think those under the stake president's stewardship are entitled to know the truth vis a vis the stake president's testimony of the Restoration and of Joseph Smith and that he isn't telling one story to them in public and a different story behind closed doors to someone like Bachman.

BYU71 · 05-06-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Who is the "my crap don't stink" crowd, as it pertains to this particular case?

How would I know. I have only read the SP's response and he seems like a pretty reasonable nice guy. It is my opinion that Bushman ran into a number of "my crap don't stink folks", but I am not going to provide you any links as it is just an educated guess.

My main point is why does he care? Whe doesn't he just move on.

Indy Coug · 05-06-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

My main point is why does he care? Whe doesn't he just move on.

Why does who care? Bachman or the Stake President? If you're talking about the Stake President, then I've already given a reason why he justifiably should have responded.

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05-06-2008, 05:56 PM	#5
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	I don't understand the point of once you are out going on a crusade. I will flat out tell you, as if you don't know, the my crap don't stink gang in the church bug me to death. That kind of gang exists in every culture, but it is especially galling to me when they use God as their anchor. If something happened and I left the church, I would be relieved I never had to engage them again. Last edited by BYU71; 05-06-2008 at 06:00 PM.

05-06-2008, 05:36 PM	#2
ute4ever I must not tell lies Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,103	And another endless and meaningless diatribe of he said, she said has been hatched. To those who have the time and interest to read all >229 responses, good for you.