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Old 03-12-2008, 03:36 PM   #11
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The NCAA is using the broadest possible definition of a "prospective men's volleyball student-athlete".
So I make inducements to someone that I hope will play for BYU, but ends up not playing at BYU, then I have committed no wrong?

You know that's not true.
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:49 PM   #12
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So I make inducements to someone that I hope will play for BYU, but ends up not playing at BYU, then I have committed no wrong?

You know that's not true.
I've already provided the quote that showed the assistance came WITH THE UNDERSTANDING that the person would no longer be eligible to participate in athletics. Thus, it's no inducement, and the NCAA has mischaracterized the assistance.
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I've already provided the quote that showed the assistance came WITH THE UNDERSTANDING that the person would no longer be eligible to participate in athletics. Thus, it's no inducement, and the NCAA has mischaracterized the assistance.
So they say. Yeah, I gave the star Cuban volleyball player all this assistance with our private understanding this would mean he would not play for us.

Yeah, right.

I can see why the NCAA would be skeptical, and why you would not.
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So they say. Yeah, I gave the star Cuban volleyball player all this assistance with our private understanding this would mean he would not play for us.

Yeah, right.
Maybe they should have put him in Guantanamo. The assistance was clearly humanitarian in nature and clearly not an effort to win a recruiting war. The person signed no LOI and did not appeal his eligibility. There is no evidence that he received assistance while BYU viewed him as a recruitable athlete.
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What, a $17,000 payment from a booster to aid a player is an NCAA violation??? I had no idea!!!
I do love it was called "humanitarian aid." lol!
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Maybe they should have put him in Guantanamo. The assistance was clearly humanitarian in nature and clearly not an effort to win a recruiting war. The person signed no LOI and did not appeal his eligibility. There is no evidence that he received assistance while BYU viewed him as a recruitable athlete.
Who cares if he signed an LOI? All that does is bind you to go somewhere to play. Instead, he just enrolled and played for 2 years.

It looks bad, Indy. Even you should be able to admit that.
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Who cares if he signed an LOI? All that does is bind you to go somewhere to play. Instead, he just enrolled and played for 2 years.

It looks bad, Indy. Even you should be able to admit that.
The player in question did not play for anyone. It's not Cala.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...6&postcount=10
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Who cares if he signed an LOI? All that does is bind you to go somewhere to play. Instead, he just enrolled and played for 2 years.

It looks bad, Indy. Even you should be able to admit that.
The guy that received the assistance did not play at BYU or anywhere else. I guess one could argue that assisting the teamate had a favorable impression on Cala to play for BYU. What a round about way to get a recruit.

Mormons game the system in such strange ways (think back to the Olympics).

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I'm having a hard time putting any blame here on the booster or coach, based on the available information. Seems like a NCAA over-reaction to me.
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The player in question did not play for anyone. It's not Cala.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...6&postcount=10
Where did your quote come from in the link? According to the Trib, it was believed to be Cala.

http://www.sltrib.com/byucougars/ci_8535554
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